You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!
Kid Montana
Posted 2/24/2017 8:33 PM (#698436)
Subject: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Expert

Joined: 3/7/2014

Posts: 1204
1000100100

Points: 2554
20005002525
Feedback Rating: 76
Location: Here in the dark

Badges:

Ok, ok, that was a clickbait as hell title.  So bite me.

I pulled down the 17 or so pages of data for all the Geek Critiques and performed some analysis. Here are some interesting and fun facts and figures; make sure you read the last paragraph.

There are 930 individual critiques across 199 cigars with about 4.7 reviews per stogie and 86.09 points awarded on average.

The Cigars:
First Critique: Arturo Fuente Hemmingway Classic (Average score: 85)
Cigar with the most reviews: Hot Ash Original Churchill with 10 reviews (average score: 80.3, proof that quantity does not equal quality)
Highest Average Score (with more than 2 reviews): Sindicato Cigars Sindicato Toro Maduro (average 94.2)
Highest Score, period! A three 4-way tie at 98 points!
- Camacho Triple Maduro Robusto
- DE Liga Privada Unico Serie Feral Flying Pig
- Sindicato Cigars Sindicator Toro Maduro
- Paul Stulac White Blinding Light Torpedo
Lowest Average Score (with more than 2 reviews): Cuba Aliado (Core Line) Toro Extra with only 69.8 points
Lowest Score, period! JFC Tobacco La FLor De Cuba with only 40 points

The Geeks! 
Most prolific Geek Critiquer: DonM with 28 separate Geek Critiques
Other notables: nirab (27), nwb (26), Ken Kelly (26)
Biggest Sugar Daddy Reviewer (with more than 2 reviews): Rammstein142 with 93.5 average on 4 reviews
Stingiest Reviewer (with more than 2 reviews): sam a with 63.67 on 3 reviews
Average number of reviews per person: 4.1 reviews

The Times!
Toughest month: December, 2009 with 69.8 average
Highest rated month: July, 2013 with a 92.4 average
Toughest Year: 2009 with only 83.58 points average
Best Year: 2016 with 87.48 points average

2008 - 85.00 pts avg 2 reviews, lol
2009 - 83.78 pts avg, 77 reviews
2010 - 84.81 pts avg, 86 reviews
2011 - 85.82 pts avg, 84 reviews
2012 - 87.32 pts avg, 86 reviews
2013 - 85.81 pts avg, 106 reviews
2014 - 86.55 pts avg, 229 reviews
2015 - 86.40 pts avg, 163 reviews
2016 - 87.48 pts avg, 87 reviews
2017 - 85.5 pts avg, 10 reviews(so far!)

Now if those numbers weren't nerdy enough for you, here is the super nerdy, but actually quite surprising stuff:

I did a standard deviation analysis and derived a few interesting statistical points.  Because the average review is quite high, the maximum possible value of 100 is slightly less than 2 standard deviations from the mean. This means that high scores are significantly less meaningful than low scores. A 94 is barely over 1 standard deviation from the mean, implying that picking a cigar rated 94 is statistically indistinguishable from an picking a cigar rated 86. Only Scores above 98 are really meaningful! Shocking! The lowest score, 40, is nearly 6.5 standard deviations from the mean and quite nearly the level of significance required to confirm the existence of a new particle or state of matter in physics.  On the low side, bad reviews are a great indicator of a real dog rocket, with reviews below 72 an almost guaranteed loser at 1.98 standard deviations below the average.  Scores below 65 are 3 standard deviations from the average and indicate the stogies aren't even worth burning with fire.   

Review inflation is a serious problem and ultimately grinds out the meaning from high ratings.  Even times when the scale is re-calibrated, reviews inevitably drift towards the high end, mostly due to selection bias (bad cigars tend to not get reviewed) and bandwagon/blind spot biases or the Ben Franklin effect (its a free cigar!).  

 Update: the stdev value is 7.0991.  To calculate the significance (called p-value) for any one score, apply the formula: (score-average)/stdev.  For example, a score of 90 - > (90-86.06)/7.0991 -> p=~.555  p values below 1.0 are not significantly different than the average.  Scores above 2.0 are very significant.  



Edited by Kid Montana 2/25/2017 9:18 AM
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Brlesq
Posted 2/24/2017 8:45 PM (#698437 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: RE: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Elite Guru

Joined: 5/4/2010

Posts: 21120
50005000500050001000100

Points: 27430
50005000500050005000200010010010010025
Feedback Rating: 239
Location: Upstate NY

Badges:
Now THAT is a terrific analysis. Good work, Dan!
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Deener27
Posted 2/24/2017 9:14 PM (#698439 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: RE: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Elite Veteran

Joined: 1/29/2017

Posts: 897
500100100100252525

Points: 2922
2000500100100100100
Feedback Rating: 41
Location: Sort of South and Somewhat West of Chicago

Badges:
Wow, now that is some analysis that is right up my alley.

Awesome work there. Very interesting.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
ninfiction
Posted 2/24/2017 9:15 PM (#698440 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Elite Expert

Joined: 7/1/2014

Posts: 4189
20002000100252525

Points: 8484
500020001000100100100100252525
Feedback Rating: 140
Location: Minneapolis, MN

Badges:
I thought I was a data nerd, holy crap...great analysis though!
Top of the page Bottom of the page
shakinghorizons
Posted 2/24/2017 9:38 PM (#698445 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Expert

Joined: 1/5/2015

Posts: 2060
20002525

Points: 3790
20001000500100100252525
Feedback Rating: 169
Location: Colorado

Badges:
Very cool, thank you!
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Gustoff
Posted 2/24/2017 10:01 PM (#698447 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Elite Veteran

Joined: 10/12/2015

Posts: 944
50010010010010025

Points: 1714
1000500100100
Feedback Rating: 44
Location: NOVA

Badges:
That is awesome info! Thank you for the writeup!
Top of the page Bottom of the page
benchjockey
Posted 2/24/2017 10:14 PM (#698448 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!


Elite Expert

Joined: 1/24/2014

Posts: 5747
500050010010025

Points: 6362
500010001001001002525
Feedback Rating: 24
Location: South Florida

Badges:
Very thorough analysis ... and interesting.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
cavenbk
Posted 2/24/2017 10:15 PM (#698449 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Extreme Expert

Joined: 1/29/2013

Posts: 2933
200050010010010010025

Points: 3663
200010005001002525
Feedback Rating: 48
Location: Springfield, OH

Badges:
Holy hell Daniel, you must really be bored. Interesting information though.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Kid Montana
Posted 2/24/2017 10:46 PM (#698450 - in reply to #698449)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Expert

Joined: 3/7/2014

Posts: 1204
1000100100

Points: 2554
20005002525
Feedback Rating: 76
Location: Here in the dark

Badges:
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Longhorn
Posted 2/24/2017 11:47 PM (#698453 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Guru

Joined: 4/22/2012

Posts: 6572
500010005002525

Points: 9987
500020002000500100100100100252525
Feedback Rating: 224


Badges:
...and in other news, I cut the end off a cigar and put fire to it. Good smoke. I'll rate it at 86.09 so as not to f&*k with the data.

Top of the page Bottom of the page
BewareDaPenguin
Posted 2/25/2017 12:12 AM (#698455 - in reply to #698453)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Extreme Expert

Joined: 1/3/2014

Posts: 3219
20001000100100

Points: 5059
50002525
Feedback Rating: 108


Badges:
Longhorn - 2/25/2017 2:47 AM

...and in other news, I cut the end off a cigar and put fire to it. Good smoke. I'll rate it at 86.09 so as not to f&*k with the data.



Lmao Brad lol...nice


Very cool stats man I did fall for the click bait but read the article very nicely broke down.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
sar127
Posted 2/25/2017 2:39 AM (#698456 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Elite Veteran

Joined: 7/15/2013

Posts: 685
500100252525

Points: 1780
1000500100100252525
Feedback Rating: 107


Badges:
I like it!
Top of the page Bottom of the page
amigodecigars
Posted 2/25/2017 6:43 AM (#698460 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: RE: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Expert

Joined: 8/18/2012

Posts: 1280
1000100100252525

Points: 1465
10001001001001002525
Feedback Rating: 14
Location: Tabacos de Costa Rica,Santiago de Puriscal

Badges:
Who is "Ken Kelly?"
Top of the page Bottom of the page
05Venturer
Posted 2/25/2017 7:05 AM (#698462 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Extreme Guru

Joined: 10/19/2013

Posts: 8170
5000200010001002525

Points: 12445
50005000200010010010010025
Feedback Rating: 243
Location: Packerland & Badger Country

Badges:
U R a GEEK
Top of the page Bottom of the page
amigodecigars
Posted 2/25/2017 7:19 AM (#698465 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: RE: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Expert

Joined: 8/18/2012

Posts: 1280
1000100100252525

Points: 1465
10001001001001002525
Feedback Rating: 14
Location: Tabacos de Costa Rica,Santiago de Puriscal

Badges:

I love 'kick-ass' analysis!  That is 100% 'copy-paste' to take to the factory. Good job.

In the first 30 days of his term, Trump has overseen a considerable slowdown in regulations, according to an analysis by The Hill. There has been a 72 percent decline in regulatory activity during the first month of the Trump administration compared with the last two months of then-President Barack Obama’s term.

 In the first 30 days of his term, Trump has overseen a considerable slowdown in regulations, according to an analysis by The Hill. There has been a 72 percent decline in regulatory activity during the first month of the Trump administration compared with the last two months of then-President Barack Obama’s term.

 

Top of the page Bottom of the page
toby2
Posted 2/25/2017 8:12 AM (#698466 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Extreme Guru

Joined: 4/14/2012

Posts: 9477
500020002000100100100100252525

Points: 11062
5000500010002525
Feedback Rating: 91
Location: Fortson GA

Badges:
that put the Geek into Cigar Geeks for sure. great job.

and where the hell is Ken anyway? still chasing folks off his lawn with some high powered projectile weapon i bet!
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Otter
Posted 2/25/2017 8:56 AM (#698468 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: RE: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Elite Expert

Joined: 8/11/2012

Posts: 5502
5000500

Points: 6592
50001000500252525
Feedback Rating: 48
Location: Texan Serving Behind Enemy Lines in the PRMD

Badges:
Top of the page Bottom of the page
appollo
Posted 2/25/2017 8:58 AM (#698469 - in reply to #698468)
Subject: RE: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Elite Expert

Joined: 9/18/2014

Posts: 4359
200020001001001002525

Points: 7409
50002000100100100100
Feedback Rating: 132
Location: Nova Scotia

Badges:
Wow,that there is some info.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Cfickter
Posted 2/25/2017 10:41 AM (#698473 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Elite Guru

Joined: 3/31/2012

Posts: 13913
5000500020001000500100100100100

Points: 20178
5000500050005000100252525
Feedback Rating: 250
Location: At the Confluence

Badges:
Wow Dan
New thread, lets find Dan a girlfriend!
Top of the page Bottom of the page
amigodecigars
Posted 2/25/2017 11:07 AM (#698476 - in reply to #698473)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Expert

Joined: 8/18/2012

Posts: 1280
1000100100252525

Points: 1465
10001001001001002525
Feedback Rating: 14
Location: Tabacos de Costa Rica,Santiago de Puriscal

Badges:

Cfickter - 2/25/2017 12:41 PM Wow Dan New thread, lets find Dan a girlfriend!

 Come on down to Costa Rica and I will find all of ya a hot Latina girlfriend....aka "Ticas"....if I can get away from work (photo)

 





(working on the beach.jpg)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments working on the beach.jpg (22KB - 61 downloads)
Top of the page Bottom of the page
appollo
Posted 2/25/2017 11:46 AM (#698480 - in reply to #698473)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Elite Expert

Joined: 9/18/2014

Posts: 4359
200020001001001002525

Points: 7409
50002000100100100100
Feedback Rating: 132
Location: Nova Scotia

Badges:
Cfickter - 2/25/2017 12:41 PM

Wow Dan
New thread, lets find Dan a girlfriend!

Top of the page Bottom of the page
DRuff
Posted 2/25/2017 11:57 AM (#698482 - in reply to #698473)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Elite Veteran

Joined: 12/19/2013

Posts: 765
5001001002525

Points: 1295
1000100100252525
Feedback Rating: 42
Location: Pickerington, OH

Badges:

Cfickter - 2/25/2017 11:41 AM Wow Dan New thread, lets find Dan a girlfriend!

 

you read my mind 

Top of the page Bottom of the page
tvolball
Posted 2/25/2017 1:42 PM (#698486 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: RE: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Elite Expert

Joined: 11/14/2012

Posts: 4910
20002000500100100100100

Points: 7120
50002000100
Feedback Rating: 83


Badges:
That is really cool info
Top of the page Bottom of the page
headfirst
Posted 2/25/2017 3:51 PM (#698488 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Elite Expert

Joined: 12/11/2014

Posts: 4031
2000200025

Points: 7601
50002000500100
Feedback Rating: 214
Location: Southern California

Badges:
I need an analysis on the member and industry sponsors, break it down Dan!

Actually might be interesting...
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Kid Montana
Posted 2/25/2017 6:33 PM (#698491 - in reply to #698488)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Expert

Joined: 3/7/2014

Posts: 1204
1000100100

Points: 2554
20005002525
Feedback Rating: 76
Location: Here in the dark

Badges:
headfirst - 2/25/2017 6:51 PM

I need an analysis on the member and industry sponsors, break it down Dan!

Actually might be interesting...


There is no way to separate them once they're archived. The lists do not differentiate, only inside the review themselves do you see whether its a Member sponsored or not. http://cigargeeks.com/reviews/staffreviews.asp
Top of the page Bottom of the page
SenorPablo
Posted 2/25/2017 7:17 PM (#698493 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Guru

Joined: 3/17/2005

Posts: 6039
5000100025

Points: 9614
500020002000500100
Feedback Rating: 35
Location: Maryland

Badges:
Wow. Really good analysis there. Interesting findings.

-Paul
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Brlesq
Posted 2/26/2017 10:09 AM (#698505 - in reply to #698460)
Subject: RE: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Elite Guru

Joined: 5/4/2010

Posts: 21120
50005000500050001000100

Points: 27430
50005000500050005000200010010010010025
Feedback Rating: 239
Location: Upstate NY

Badges:
amigodecigars - 2/25/2017 7:43 AM

Who is "Ken Kelly?"


Chief curmudgeon. Decided not to grace us with his presence anymore I guess. Too bad, really.

Top of the page Bottom of the page
McBryde
Posted 2/26/2017 10:29 AM (#698507 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Extreme Expert

Joined: 6/18/2011

Posts: 3568
200010005002525

Points: 4933
2000200050010010010010025
Feedback Rating: 63
Location: On the hunting farm!

Badges:
Nice analysis, that is some true geek stuff right there! This just tells me I need to send some real dog rockets out for my critique in July so that it will move the needle!

E
Top of the page Bottom of the page
nirab
Posted 2/27/2017 8:37 AM (#698548 - in reply to #698491)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Elite Guru

Joined: 5/6/2012

Posts: 11816
500050001000500100100100

Points: 18346
5000500050002000100010010010025
Feedback Rating: 324
Location: Beeuudaful Buda, Texas! HOOK EM! \m/

Badges:
Kid Montana - 2/25/2017 8:33 PM

headfirst - 2/25/2017 6:51 PM

I need an analysis on the member and industry sponsors, break it down Dan!

Actually might be interesting...


There is no way to separate them once they're archived. The lists do not differentiate, only inside the review themselves do you see whether its a Member sponsored or not. http://cigargeeks.com/reviews/staffreviews.asp


So, you are saying you don't have the time to sift through the reviews and separate the member & industry sponsor reviews??? Ummmmm...I think you do!!!
Top of the page Bottom of the page
nirab
Posted 2/27/2017 8:39 AM (#698549 - in reply to #698453)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Elite Guru

Joined: 5/6/2012

Posts: 11816
500050001000500100100100

Points: 18346
5000500050002000100010010010025
Feedback Rating: 324
Location: Beeuudaful Buda, Texas! HOOK EM! \m/

Badges:
Longhorn - 2/25/2017 1:47 AM

...and in other news, I cut the end off a cigar and put fire to it. Good smoke. I'll rate it at 86.09 so as not to f&*k with the data.




Top of the page Bottom of the page
junglepete
Posted 2/27/2017 11:42 AM (#698561 - in reply to #698493)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Extreme Guru

Joined: 3/16/2008

Posts: 8384
500020001000100100100252525

Points: 49739
5000500050005000500050005000500050002000200050010010025
Feedback Rating: 87


Badges:
Who would have thought? Thanks.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Jackal
Posted 2/27/2017 12:24 PM (#698564 - in reply to #698561)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Elite Guru

Joined: 3/19/2009

Posts: 12953
5000500020005001001001001002525

Points: 46633
500050005000500050005000500050005000100050010025
Feedback Rating: 263
Location: Anaheim Hills, California

Badges:
Good stuff there.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
MacMac
Posted 2/27/2017 7:10 PM (#698593 - in reply to #698436)
Subject: Re: You won't believe what I found out about the Geek Critiques!



Expert

Joined: 2/20/2015

Posts: 2099
2000252525

Points: 3864
200010005001001001002525
Feedback Rating: 26
Location: Lake Gaston, VA

Badges:
Wow now that's interesting analysis.
Top of the page Bottom of the page