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Vroomp
Posted 12/27/2012 7:27 PM (#320818 - in reply to #320571)
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With a large shaper it would be easy to replicate these with only a couple passes through the band saw and shaper. A quick spin on a weenie roller into a sander after gluing the two haves back together and voila! It's not profitable to turn these out of a single block and most don't appear to be. My guess is they are veneers overlaying an aluminum tube..........

Can you show us a picture of the interior Cigarcigan?
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Posted 12/27/2012 7:33 PM (#320821 - in reply to #320814)
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junglepete - 12/27/2012 8:17 PM

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I am aware that not everyone needs such cigar tube, but I suppose our prices are still reasonable for custom handmade product. I am very glad that you like them, thank you :) unfortunately, cannot sell them for 20 bucks, sorry

Website is www.doutnikovapouzdra.cz, I'm working on english translation, but your browser translator plugin should translate it correctly for now.




Just looking at the examples you've provided in your posts here I can see your material costs alone for each tube most likely exceed $20 per copy! I don't think a lot of people realize how much the raw materials cost for finely made objects. Not everything is made in China you know!


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Posted 12/27/2012 7:46 PM (#320831 - in reply to #320814)
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I am aware that not everyone needs such cigar tube, but I suppose our prices are still reasonable for custom handmade product. I am very glad that you like them, thank you :) unfortunately, cannot sell them for 20 bucks, sorry

Website is www.doutnikovapouzdra.cz, I'm working on english translation, but your browser translator plugin should translate it correctly for now.




Just looking at the examples you've provided in your posts here I can see your material costs alone for each tube most likely exceed $20 per copy! I don't think a lot of people realize how much the raw materials cost for finely made objects. Not everything is made in China you know!


Hey Don, remind me not to pick you for my negotiating team


I think you meant Ken, but I'm just the same.
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Posted 12/27/2012 7:54 PM (#320838 - in reply to #320831)
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Posted 12/27/2012 8:22 PM (#320842 - in reply to #320571)
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Would be interested in a group order. Would be interested in a Churchill size (180 mm X 20 mm).
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Posted 12/27/2012 8:30 PM (#320843 - in reply to #320571)
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if you guy's do a group oder id like to get in on it.
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Posted 12/27/2012 9:12 PM (#320862 - in reply to #320571)
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So if we do a group order certain details will need to be agreed on.

Size: The 20 mm X 170 mm seems to be a no go. A Churchill size would be 20 mm X 180 mm. A Double Toro would be 24mm X 150 mm. What size would be agreeable?

Style: A plain style would run about $40 hopefully cheaper if 50 were purchased. A custom runs $75 hopefully cheaper if 50 were purchased. So what would be preferred? Would the custom just have a CG logo or individual initials?

Finally the big question : Can we get 50 geeks to agree on something? Hopefully cigarcigan can offer some suggestions and price structure?
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Posted 12/28/2012 10:47 AM (#321018 - in reply to #320729)
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Vroomp - 12/27/2012 2:45 PM

Those only fit up to 48 ring gauge !!!!!!

The question was.... what about a group discount? How much for 50 standard tubes with initials?



That is correct. For bigger diameter I have to create a prototype as this size was always enough or too big (people smoke smaller cigars in EU I guess )




Alphairon - 12/27/2012 3:52 PM


Just looking at the examples you've provided in your posts here I can see your material costs alone for each tube most likely exceed $20 per copy! I don't think a lot of people realize how much the raw materials cost for finely made objects. Not everything is made in China you know!


yes sir






pferg - 12/27/2012 6:29 PM

those look really nice. a little pricy but the workmanship for these look amazing. Im wondering how much one that fits a 6x60 cigar would cost?


will have to create one first to tell you the price estimate, I suppose $80-85, but can be less




Vroomp - 12/27/2012 7:27 PM

With a large shaper it would be easy to replicate these with only a couple passes through the band saw and shaper. A quick spin on a weenie roller into a sander after gluing the two haves back together and voila! It's not profitable to turn these out of a single block and most don't appear to be. My guess is they are veneers overlaying an aluminum tube..........

Can you show us a picture of the interior Cigarcigan?


They are all wooden. It can also be made on lathe, but to my experience such cigar tube is not as solid as it should be and cracks. And it's heavier.




Hapcigar - 12/27/2012 8:22 PM

Would be interested in a group order. Would be interested in a Churchill size (180 mm X 20 mm).
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Would make it for the same price as 170x20




Hapcigar - 12/27/2012 9:12 PM

So if we do a group order certain details will need to be agreed on.

Size: The 20 mm X 170 mm seems to be a no go. A Churchill size would be 20 mm X 180 mm. A Double Toro would be 24mm X 150 mm. What size would be agreeable?

Style: A plain style would run about $40 hopefully cheaper if 50 were purchased. A custom runs $75 hopefully cheaper if 50 were purchased. So what would be preferred? Would the custom just have a CG logo or individual initials?

Finally the big question : Can we get 50 geeks to agree on something? Hopefully cigarcigan can offer some suggestions and price structure?




Well, the reason I offerd the group buy was that there would be huge saving on shipping compared to every tube sent individually. Unfortunately, it's not a group by where the price is half, we are not Groupon these are our products, making them still takes the same amount of work and time. But I know that would not be interesting for you, so I would make them for $65 each
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Posted 12/28/2012 11:07 AM (#321025 - in reply to #320571)
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Good questions by all.

I'm making the plunge - from the web site and my interactions via email with these guys, they appear to have a quality and unique item.

I have a couple of good friends that would appreciate these as a gift if they are as advertised.

I'll post detailed pictures when they arrive.
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Posted 12/28/2012 1:02 PM (#321053 - in reply to #321025)
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Longhorn - 12/28/2012 12:07 PM
Good questions by all.

I'm making the plunge - from the web site and my interactions via email with these guys, they appear to have a quality and unique item.

I have a couple of good friends that would appreciate these as a gift if they are as advertised.

I'll post detailed pictures when they arrive.


Looking forward to it.
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Posted 12/28/2012 1:52 PM (#321071 - in reply to #321025)
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Posted 12/28/2012 1:58 PM (#321072 - in reply to #321071)
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Thanks for being the Guinea Pig Brad.
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Posted 12/28/2012 2:05 PM (#321074 - in reply to #320571)
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those are very nice. you wont have a hard time finding buyers
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Posted 1/7/2013 12:13 PM (#324489 - in reply to #321074)
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cibolodave - 12/28/2012 2:05 PM

those are very nice. you wont have a hard time finding buyers


thank you
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Posted 1/7/2013 2:02 PM (#324510 - in reply to #320571)
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40 bucks for a standard tube dont sound bad, I will try your web site and see if it will translate.
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Posted 1/7/2013 2:03 PM (#324511 - in reply to #320843)
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ntanner - 12/27/2012 6:30 PM if you guy's do a group oder id like to get in on it.

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Posted 1/10/2013 12:57 PM (#325405 - in reply to #324510)
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BigTA - 1/7/2013 2:02 PM

40 bucks for a standard tube dont sound bad, I will try your web site and see if it will translate.


now you can switch to english, not much to translate yet though
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Posted 1/10/2013 9:24 PM (#325580 - in reply to #320571)
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As I indicated I ordered three of these handmade tubes.

These guys have been really customer friendly. They have kept me informed of their progress and sent messages for me to make decisions about wood type, inlays, orientation of initials, status of prototypes (I asked for 7" tubes that would accommodate at least a 54 ring gauge), etc.

They sent this picture of their progress. We're waiting on additional inlay material and the lacquer will take a few weeks to apply and harden.

I've offered to remit a portion of the cost, but so far they have not asked for anything. So far, so good...






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Posted 1/10/2013 10:43 PM (#325595 - in reply to #320571)
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Posted 1/11/2013 2:35 AM (#325611 - in reply to #320571)
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Those are very nice indeed.
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Posted 1/11/2013 8:17 AM (#325641 - in reply to #320571)
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Posted 1/11/2013 8:23 AM (#325647 - in reply to #320571)
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Wow, looking good!.
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Posted 1/11/2013 8:37 AM (#325655 - in reply to #320571)
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that would make an awesome gift, especially with a good cigar in it.
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Posted 1/11/2013 9:00 PM (#325883 - in reply to #325655)
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Looking good, and I'm looking forward to seeing the end product!
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Posted 1/15/2013 12:18 PM (#327068 - in reply to #320571)
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Updated progress on manufacturing of tubes - two of the three with the initial inlays. The brass on the dark wood looks amazing. They indicated they would be applying the glaze over the next few days. BTW - mine is the BWG, ADC and JDA (not shown with the inlays yet) are for my herfing friends.


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