Had a blast today, good food, good company, plenty of drinks and Veritas pre-released their "412" cigar,,, I smoked a " Torch" 6x50',,,, pretty good for a regional brand...won a Veritas poster, which I handed to a younger feller,,,I looked she and the cigar were good looking, but at my age what am I going to do with a poster, hang it on my wall, like that would to over well with the wife,,,also scored 3 of the pre-release "412" they say it is a Maduro wrapper, but looks much darker into obscure,,, I didn't light one up, just got in state yesterday with just a month from manufacturing,,,folks that did light their sample said it was still was way to young, even the rep and Chris the VP, suggested aging them at least a month if not more,,,, the rest of you brothers get to wait until September October before they hit stores..... Currently the band is a generic paper , black and white, with , Veritas 412,,,I am not sure how many trade shows are next month, but the "412" will be released there,,,wonder if it's to late to get tickets,,,lol,, that's the news, hope y'all get a chance to try one of these if you haven't so far,, also received a torch Maduro tiro, 6x50