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Title: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Joelala on 06/20/2014 02:11 PM
I have not tried this but thought about it, any thoughts? Does the wine just over take the cigar?
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Camshaft83 on 06/20/2014 02:17 PM
I like to have some wine with a cigar. But like everything in the cigar world it comes down to personal taste.
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Smurf on 06/20/2014 02:43 PM
Sterling Vinter's Collection, Cabernet Sauvignon pairs nice with cigars as does J. Lohr seven oaks cab
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: scottvodka on 06/20/2014 02:58 PM
wine is gross tho
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Joelala on 06/20/2014 03:15 PM
Quotescottvodka - 6/20/2014  4:58 PM

wine is gross tho
:lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Rebecca Silverwolf on 06/20/2014 04:52 PM
I've never had wine with a cigar, but I could imagine some pairings to work very well. I know the Illusione Epernay is blended to be paired with champagne, and I could see it being a pretty good combination.
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: cavenbk on 06/20/2014 05:33 PM
I personal prefer to have a glass of Boone's Farm while I smoke my White Owls.
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: scottvodka on 06/20/2014 07:00 PM
Quotecavenbk - 6/20/2014  8:33 PM

I personal prefer to have a glass of Boone's Farm while I smoke my White Owls.

No bro, it's all about the mad dog paired with a liga privada.
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: cavenbk on 06/20/2014 07:27 PM

Quotescottvodka - 6/20/2014  11:00 PM  
Quotecavenbk - 6/20/2014  8:33 PM  I personal prefer to have a glass of Boone's Farm while I smoke my White Owls.
No bro, it's all about the mad dog paired with a liga privada.

I forgot all about the Mad Dog! A buddy of mine in college LOVED Mad Dog 20/20

Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: scottvodka on 06/20/2014 07:29 PM
Quotecavenbk - 6/20/2014  10:27 PM

Quotescottvodka - 6/20/2014  11:00 PM  
Quotecavenbk - 6/20/2014  8:33 PM  I personal prefer to have a glass of Boone's Farm while I smoke my White Owls.
No bro, it's all about the mad dog paired with a liga privada.

I forgot all about the Mad Dog! A buddy of mine in college LOVED Mad Dog 20/20


Lol I bet he was also all about citrus vomit.

/derail if you search around on YouTube a bit both Rocky Patel and djonathan drew talk about wine pairings.
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: nwb on 06/20/2014 07:38 PM
It has been a while, but I've found a good Port pairs well with some cigars.
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Caveman Steve on 06/20/2014 09:00 PM

Quotenwb - 6/20/2014  10:38 PM  It has been a while, but I've found a good Port pairs well with some cigars.

X2  Port and cigars is a marriage made in heaven......Any Port in a storm as they say! 

Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: metalhead y cigarguy on 06/20/2014 11:25 PM
Why would anyone want to drink wine with their cigar when they could drink bourbon instead. Seems foolish to me.  :biggrin:
Title: RE: Wine and Cigars
Post by: DonM on 06/21/2014 04:41 AM
I am not a big wine drinker but agree with NWB and Caveman, Port is good with a cigar!
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: 05Venturer on 06/21/2014 05:28 AM
My WIFE likes MY wine while I'm smoking a Cigar :lmao:
Title: RE: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Longhorn on 06/21/2014 05:34 AM
This is what happens when you mix cigars and wine.  

Title: RE: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Newbhunter on 06/21/2014 05:37 AM
QuoteLonghorn - 6/21/2014  8:34 AM

This is what happens when you mix cigars and wine.  


LOL
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Joelala on 06/21/2014 06:00 AM
I will have to try some of these ideas. I am not a big wine drinker, but the wife is.
Title: RE: Wine and Cigars
Post by: nwb on 06/21/2014 07:08 AM
QuoteLonghorn - 6/21/2014  8:34 AM
This is what happens when you mix cigars and wine.  

 :lmao:
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: SenorPablo on 06/21/2014 07:54 AM
I have a Cab with a cigar from time to time.  I definitely would say if you do, go with a stronger wine like a cab.  Been many years as well, but I do remember Tawny Ports being real good with a cigar.  It all comes down to your personal prefs.

-Paul
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: nkowal on 06/21/2014 07:59 AM
QuoteRebecca Silverwolf - 6/20/2014  7:52 PM

I've never had wine with a cigar, but I could imagine some pairings to work very well. I know the Illusione Epernay is blended to be paired with champagne, and I could see it being a pretty good combination.

Did not know this - interesting. I'll have to give that a try - I've enjoyed it with a Charadonnay before and that was a great pairing.

I've paired wine and cigars a few times (and have been to a few places that have recommended wine/cigar pairings as well), to me, it depends how into it you are to care. I've had a white with a cigar I've felt didn't "pair" and it's been just fine. But generally I abide by the following rules if pairing with wine:

Since generally red wines are black berries/red berries they pay better with some of the stronger, and more full-bodied cigars. White wines are traditionally peachy/citrusy so a lighter or more mild cigar usually tends to pair better. Just my opinion, but put a LP9 with a Shiraz/Syrah and enjoy.
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: dcudney on 10/27/2014 01:57 PM
For my taste, fortified wines go great with cigars. Ports and Tawney ports are incredible with a good cigar. For me, regular wines don't cut it. The cigar actually overpowers a regular cab or zin.
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: JoeTheBoss on 01/06/2015 10:24 AM
x2
I have been pairing the  J. Lohr Seven Oaks Cab  with a nice aromatic cigar, like Ambrosia or a Tabak Dulce... It's like desert at the Cigar Bar.



QuoteSmurf - 6/20/2014  5:43 PM

Sterling Vinter's Collection, Cabernet Sauvignon pairs nice with cigars as does J. Lohr seven oaks cab
Title: RE: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Ken Kelley on 01/06/2015 11:44 AM
I don't know about this one. The aroma of the paper bag the wine bottle is in seems to interfere with the more delicate nuances of the cigar butts you find on the sidewalk.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Cfickter on 01/06/2015 01:23 PM
Here is my wine (to the wife) and cigars!

Ohhhhhh, but all the other geeks get to herf tonight!
Title: RE: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Mojo66 on 01/06/2015 01:40 PM

QuoteKen Kelley - 1/6/2015  2:44 PM  I don't know about this one. The aroma of the paper bag the wine bottle is in seems to interfere with the more delicate nuances of the cigar butts you find on the sidewalk.  :biggrin:

I think I detect a hint of p*ss and maybe some far away sh*t on the retrohale, reminiscent of a park bench I use to know. As the butt approaches it's final turd, the paper bag kick is more pronounced and I'm in heaven, what a great pairing with a lovely Chateau homeless 2015

Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: headfirst on 03/02/2015 06:52 AM
I like a Cab or Syrah when I'm having wine with a cigar.  I'll have to give Port a try.
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: ntanner on 03/02/2015 07:20 AM
Havn't done wine with a cigar. Never been much of a wine drinker, More into malted beverages with my cigars.
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: headfirst on 03/02/2015 07:41 AM
A brown ale is always a nice pairing, can't go wrong there...
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: headfirst on 03/05/2015 06:34 AM
That doesn't ring a bell, where do you get it?
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Joelala on 03/05/2015 06:51 AM
I bought a Port last year and just have not tried it yet, looking forward to it
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: frankj1 on 03/05/2015 07:48 PM
QuoteJoelala - 3/5/2015  6:51 AM

I bought a Port last year and just have not tried it yet, looking forward to it
one man's opinion, but I'd smoke a cigar that won't be dominated by the sweetness and thick mouthfeel of the port, maybe something like a sturdy maduro? something that can share the spotlight, probably the kind of smoke you'd turn to after a satisfying meal, which is also a good time to sip a nice port...

Frank
Title: RE: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Jay'D on 04/19/2015 10:41 PM
I'm more a dessert wine kinda guy so I don't know what good cigar will go with that.
Title: RE: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Mojo66 on 04/20/2015 06:52 AM

QuoteJay'D - 4/20/2015  1:41 AM  I'm more a dessert wine kinda guy so I don't know what good cigar will go with that.

Swisher Sweets  :biggrin:

Title: RE: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Brlesq on 04/20/2015 03:51 PM
QuoteJay'D - 4/20/2015  1:41 AM

I'm more a dessert wine kinda guy so I don't know what good cigar will go with that.

In all seriousness, an Acid Kuba Kuba will pair great with a ruby or tawny port.  I smoke very, very few "flavored" cigars, but that pairing is one that I enjoy once or twice a year, especially on a crisp Autumn day.
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: sjn1117 on 04/20/2015 04:10 PM
Nothing like some MD 20/20 orange jubilee and a good Optimo!
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Mojo66 on 04/20/2015 05:16 PM

Quotesjn1117 - 4/20/2015  7:10 PM  Nothing like some MD 20/20 orange jubilee and a good Optimo!

Man I wish I could tell if you're kidding or not :biggrin:  

but yeah that sounds like the ideal pairing if you're stuck at a gas station :dancing:

Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: sjn1117 on 04/20/2015 05:44 PM
:biggrin:
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Joelala on 07/31/2015 09:26 AM
Bringing back an old one.

I finally tried the port I had from door county with a cigar. It was my first port, and I did like it but thought it was a little sweet. I really did enjoy the flavors it brought out of the cigar. Anyone know of a port that is a little less sweet? I normally drink Cabs so this was definitely on the sweet side for me. But overall enjoyed the experience.
Title: RE: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Jackal on 07/31/2015 09:58 AM
QuoteBrlesq - 4/20/2015  4:51 PM

QuoteJay'D - 4/20/2015  1:41 AM

I'm more a dessert wine kinda guy so I don't know what good cigar will go with that.

In all seriousness, an Acid Kuba Kuba will pair great with a ruby or tawny port.  I smoke very, very few "flavored" cigars, but that pairing is one that I enjoy once or twice a year, especially on a crisp Autumn day.

I would think that ACID One would pair well too.  It is aged in wine barrels, so the profile is already there.
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Cfickter on 07/31/2015 11:26 AM
I find that a Malbec goes well with a medium strength cigar, neither would overpower the other.
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: horrido on 07/31/2015 04:31 PM
QuoteCfickter - 7/31/2015  1:26 PM

I find that a Malbec goes well with a medium strength cigar, neither would overpower the other.

Yup maybe even a Merlot but cider may go well to but I will stick with Scotch. :-)
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Mojo66 on 07/31/2015 07:04 PM

QuoteJoelala - 7/31/2015  1:26 PM  Bringing back an old one.  I finally tried the port I had from door county with a cigar. It was my first port, and I did like it but thought it was a little sweet. I really did enjoy the flavors it brought out of the cigar. Anyone know of a port that is a little less sweet? I normally drink Cabs so this was definitely on the sweet side for me. But overall enjoyed the experience.

Your Port was probably a Vintage or Late Bottle Vintage (LBV) and they tend to be sweet. Real good on certain occasions but not as enjoyable with a cigar as a good Tawny Port in my opinion. A good Tawny aged just right is a nectar.

LBVs are usually red, ruby and opaque. Heavier and much sweeter. Tawnys are not opaque, much less sweet and are topaz-amber-brown in color.

Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Joelala on 08/01/2015 06:40 AM
QuoteMojo66 - 7/31/2015  10:04 PM

QuoteJoelala - 7/31/2015  1:26 PM  Bringing back an old one.  I finally tried the port I had from door county with a cigar. It was my first port, and I did like it but thought it was a little sweet. I really did enjoy the flavors it brought out of the cigar. Anyone know of a port that is a little less sweet? I normally drink Cabs so this was definitely on the sweet side for me. But overall enjoyed the experience.

Your Port was probably a Vintage or Late Bottle Vintage (LBV) and they tend to be sweet. Real good on certain occasions but not as enjoyable with a cigar as a good Tawny Port in my opinion. A good Tawny aged just right is a nectar.

LBVs are usually red, ruby and opaque. Heavier and much sweeter. Tawnys are not opaque, much less sweet and are topaz-amber-brown in color.


Thanks for the info!!!
Title: RE: Wine and Cigars
Post by: vw77guy on 08/01/2015 07:55 AM
I think they pair very well together, and like anything, it's trial and error.  Some things wont mix, but others are a match made in heaven.  I had a cigar by Chinnock Cellars that was made specifically to pair with their wine.  It was awesome!  

If you were looking to do a pairing, I suggest a maduro with a port.... Yumm.
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: DonM on 08/01/2015 09:23 AM
Quotesjn1117 - 4/20/2015  8:10 PM

Nothing like some MD 20/20 orange jubilee and a good Optimo!

:lmao:
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: ReinadoCigars on 08/01/2015 12:55 PM
There's a wine brand called moscato that they say pairs up great with cigars. Anyone ever heard of it?
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: metalhead y cigarguy on 08/01/2015 09:30 PM
I've had a cigar with wine once. It was a blush and it didn't pair well. I've had Brandy with a cigar a couple times and I didn't care for that either. Not much of a wine and Brandy drinker though.
Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Caveman Steve on 08/02/2015 05:42 AM

QuoteReinadoCigars - 8/1/2015  4:55 PM  There's a wine brand called moscato that they say pairs up great with cigars. Anyone ever heard of it?

Moscato is a semi sweet to sweet white wine, typically from Italy, but it is produced everywhere.  It's a lighter bodied dessert wine.  Never had it with a cigar, although I do enjoy a nice port wine with a cigar.  I can see where it might be a good match after dinner.  Never know til you try.     :biggrin:  

Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: danb6177 on 01/10/2016 12:24 PM
QuoteMojo66 - 7/31/2015  10:04 PM

QuoteJoelala - 7/31/2015  1:26 PM  Bringing back an old one.  I finally tried the port I had from door county with a cigar. It was my first port, and I did like it but thought it was a little sweet. I really did enjoy the flavors it brought out of the cigar. Anyone know of a port that is a little less sweet? I normally drink Cabs so this was definitely on the sweet side for me. But overall enjoyed the experience.

Your Port was probably a Vintage or Late Bottle Vintage (LBV) and they tend to be sweet. Real good on certain occasions but not as enjoyable with a cigar as a good Tawny Port in my opinion. A good Tawny aged just right is a nectar.

LBVs are usually red, ruby and opaque. Heavier and much sweeter. Tawnys are not opaque, much less sweet and are topaz-amber-brown in color.


Ive been recently drinking more wine than beer (craft beer put 25 pounds on me last year lol). I do like wine with a cigar and someone mentioned port with a cigar at dinner this week.

Would you suggest as a first try at a port to get a tawny? Another question i have is alcohol content, is it the same as wine?

Title: Re: Wine and Cigars
Post by: Unco-B on 07/29/2023 04:12 PM
Red wine and cigars? Fugetaboutit! Being doing that for years! While many will suggest a big, heavy cab, there are so many wines that go great with cigars. Here are some pairings to consider:

Zinfandel, Petite Syrah, Shiraz, or a heavier Burgundy go great with mellow to medium body cigars. Something about the fruitness in those wines pair well with a softer smoke.

I love a nice Rioja, Super Tuscan, or Sangiovese with a more robust smoke, especially a slightly spicy Rioja like Cune Gran Reserva. This is a luscious wine with a chewy texture but finishes with a touch of spice. A glass or three with a dark Nicuraguan like an Oliva Serie V Melanio. I had this pairing just a couple of weeks ago. Delightful!

I almost forgot! A Sauterne is incredible with a cigar!