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Title: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: hebron on 02/02/2015 03:21 PM
I have been trying to figure out how to deal with the high temperature in the man cave for some time now. The room is pretty well insulated with concrete on three sides, so when my equipment generates heat it seems to stay in here.

I have made a thermostat for my extraction fan, so I at least can keep it below 75 F. Even when all the lights are off and I am not in the room the fan runs periodically with the thermostat set for 73 F. Running an AC or duct-less ventilation system seems a bit overkill, so I've been trying other things. So far I have replaced all lights with LEDs and florescent, and bought new low power LED computer screens.

Today my computer got a major overhaul:

* Replaced high-end gaming graphics card with a cheaper fan-less one, hey; I don't game anyways. And it's less noise. Saves up to 100 W.
* Replaced my 11 year old power supply unit with a new and more efficient model, also reduced the noise a lot.
* Replaced the CPU heat sink with a bigger one with also less fan noise.

The change is drastic, the noise is heavily reduced and the temperature is much lower. So far, with everything on I got 71 F.  :dancing: Now to see how it behaves over time.

I've attached an image of my 11 year old power supply unit, this might have contributed to it getting warm...

Also last weeks temperature graph, the sawtooth shape is caused by the thermostat controlled fan. The really big trailing edge is when I left the fan running all night. Sensor #1 is in the middle of the room and #2 is located on the computer rack.

Now; a cigar to celebrate today's achievements  :smoker:
Title: Re: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: toby2 on 02/02/2015 03:40 PM
those are some big dust bunnies! :)
Title: Re: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: Cfickter on 02/02/2015 03:50 PM
Glad you figured it out
Title: Re: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: SparklePony on 02/02/2015 03:58 PM
Quotetoby2 - 2/2/2015  6:40 PM  those are some big dust bunnies! :)

Bunnies?  That's a dust empire!

It's really cool that you've figured it out, Thomas.  
Title: Re: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: bmac7754 on 02/02/2015 04:07 PM
Be careful those bunnies might bite.
Title: Re: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: Otter on 02/02/2015 05:11 PM
#firstworldproblems ;-)
Title: Re: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: Longhorn on 02/02/2015 07:46 PM
Thinking a ductless system would have been cheaper... but not as interesting for an engineer! :biggrin:
Title: Re: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: bigjohn20081983 on 02/02/2015 10:52 PM
Maybe try something like this if it works then I would go buy a ac unit for it the kind that dose not have to be hooked up in a window.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxSLbpAwibg
Title: Re: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: hebron on 02/02/2015 11:58 PM
QuoteLonghorn - 2/3/2015  4:46 AM

Thinking a ductless system would have been cheaper... but not as interesting for an engineer! :biggrin:
Not so sure, a ductless system costs about 10 times what I have spent so far. And it would not have improved my computer ;)
Title: Re: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: hebron on 02/03/2015 12:01 AM
Quotebigjohn20081983 - 2/3/2015  7:52 AM

Maybe try something like this if it works then I would go buy a ac unit for it the kind that dose not have to be hooked up in a window.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxSLbpAwibg
It's a cool idea, but I am looking for something more permanent. I do have an A/C, but as you say it needs to be connected to a window or otherwise let the heat out. And that is true for all A/Cs, they need to get rid of the heat somehow.

So I am attaching the source of the heat :)
Title: Re: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: bigjohn20081983 on 02/03/2015 04:21 AM

Quotehebron - 2/3/2015  3:01 AM  
Quotebigjohn20081983 - 2/3/2015  7:52 AM  Maybe try something like this if it works then I would go buy a ac unit for it the kind that dose not have to be hooked up in a window.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxSLbpAwibg
It's a cool idea, but I am looking for something more permanent. I do have an A/C, but as you say it needs to be connected to a window or otherwise let the heat out. And that is true for all A/Cs, they need to get rid of the heat somehow.  So I am attaching the source of the heat :)

 

I was thinking this and used the term ac. here is what it really is http://www.sears.com/honeywell-125-pt-commercial-indoor-outdoor-portable-evaporative-air/p-04205159000P?prdNo=6&blockNo=6&blockType=G6    but after reading it again I am not sure it would work. 

Title: RE: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: DonM on 02/03/2015 06:10 AM
Pretty ingenious Thomas!   As long as you are below 75 F you will be fine :bigthumbs:
Title: Re: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: Mojo66 on 02/03/2015 06:13 AM
Any A/C will lower the RH drastically as well as lower temps so it's not necessarily the best solution.

I really like Thomas' approach and will do the same thing to my gaming computer (I don't use it much anymore either) that graphic card is simply overkill. I do have a few switches, routers and 3 computers running 365 /24 /7 in that room so I might attack the power supplies as well. Overall I really like the idea of attacking the source of the heat.

Glad you are getting close to a definite solution Thomas.
Title: Re: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: ntanner on 02/03/2015 07:43 AM
Quotebmac7754 - 2/2/2015  5:07 PM

Be careful those bunnies might bite.
Makes me think of Monty Python's Search for the Holy Grail and the Killer rabbit. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: hebron on 02/03/2015 12:47 PM
QuoteMojo66 - 2/3/2015  3:13 PM

Any A/C will lower the RH drastically as well as lower temps so it's not necessarily the best solution.

I really like Thomas' approach and will do the same thing to my gaming computer (I don't use it much anymore either) that graphic card is simply overkill. I do have a few switches, routers and 3 computers running 365 /24 /7 in that room so I might attack the power supplies as well. Overall I really like the idea of attacking the source of the heat.

Glad you are getting close to a definite solution Thomas.
Hm, that is true and it is dry enough as it is in here.

The difference with the power supply is enormous, the old one blew out really hot air. The new is above ambient, but not really hot. I did a number of things actually; I just didn't write them all in this post. But here they are :)
And that is about it I think. I need to get myself a power meter to measure the real power usage.

The effect is noticeable, 24 hours later. It's 70 F! With me working. Awesome!

Thanks Sébastien, let me know how your project is going :)
Title: Re: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: Camshaft83 on 02/03/2015 01:33 PM
It's good to see it is still working.
Title: Re: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: Mojo66 on 02/03/2015 01:55 PM
Why not go water cooled for the CPU, prove that this 20th century tech is still cool :biggrin:

I'll steal a few more ideas from you. I'll post up when all or some of it is implemented.

Thanks Thomas, very happy I'm not the only CigarGeek to also be somewhat of a ComputerGeek. Of course I'm also a Geek with plenty of brothers here when it comes to Wine, Food, Music and other things I'd probably get banned for writing (so I won't), but Computer Geekeenes is a rarer form on CG or they all are hiding behind their screens ;-)

 

Title: Re: Battling the high temperature in the man cave
Post by: hebron on 02/03/2015 02:07 PM
QuoteMojo66 - 2/3/2015  10:55 PM

Why not go water cooled for the CPU, prove that this 20th century tech is still cool :biggrin:

I'll steal a few more ideas from you. I'll post up when all or some of it is implemented.

Thanks Thomas, very happy I'm not the only CigarGeek to also be somewhat of a ComputerGeek. Of course I'm also a Geek with plenty of brothers here when it comes to Wine, Food, Music and other things I'd probably get banned for writing (so I won't), but Computer Geekeenes is a rarer form on CG or they all are hiding behind their screens ;-)

 

The thought did cross my mind, but it felt too much; too many moving parts and I am not looking to overclock. Maybe next time :)

Same to you brother, it's great to have someone to pitch ideas to :) I am hard at work getting my project web site up and running, let you know when it's done. Yeah, I'd love to see some images. Even though I have a lot of friends who are interested in computers, I tend to find that we still are interested in different things. And use the computers very differently.