A forum search found no mention of this, but in case it's there and I can't find it, I'll keep this short.
I got a new tool a few weeks ago called the PerfecDraw Cigar Accessory. See: http://perfecdraw.com/. It's a draw poker. A dentist unsatisfied at how ineffective most draw pokers were decided to "science the sh*t" out of the idea and came up with an evil looking instrument of torture. But for cigar smokers it's a DREAM COME TRUE. It really works, and I use it often. In fact, it works so well I fine-tune cigars that are only slightly snug. I've even opened up cigarillos with it, no kidding.
Cool, but $40 for a poker?
Hummm....I've seen similar tools but I'm never had that big of a problem with the cigars I've smoked. I'm had a few a bit tight but not that tight.
I've had some seriously overstuffed sticks that frustrate me, but isn't a Havana saver more affordable and does the same thing?
that's way too much for a cigar poker...git ya a metal coat hanger, cut off a 6-8" section, cut grooves in one end...bam!!
It looks like a great device, but I've never bought anything like that. If I can't fix a draw problem with a wire or coat hanger, the cigar is getting tossed in the flower bed. I'm not about to spend money on something like that. Free? It would be great. Costs money? Nope.
a paper clip will also work in a pinch.
That's a lot of dough for a piece of metal!
It is a very nice item which works well. Normal draw pokers don't have that little bit at the point so sometimes they don't work the best. Since I can smoke at the office I normally just use a paperclip as suggested above, and if I can find a long thin screw with a small thread at the end that would work better as the paper clip sometimes gets sideways and will poke a hole where it is not required. $40 is indeed a big jump and with rolling of cigars getting better, pokers aren't even a necessity that much anymore. Most factories use draw testers now I think.
Most of us on the herf have been using a $10 Havana Saver for a draw tool. Has a 4" spiral shaft that does a nice clean job. But mostly we use them for nubbing every last puff of goodness from our cigars! :smoker:
Wow, I really like that iron cross on the Havan Saver, brlesq. But like the man says in the videos, most pokers just push tobacco out of the way, and after heating up, and getting slightly moistened due to combustion, the leaf just closes in around the hole you made, so ultimately it fails. This is the only poker I've used that actually removes tobacco (just a tiny bit), and that's the whole point. And while it's true cigar rollers are getting more consistent, and your finer cigars are usually made better anyway, I'm not about to throw a Liga Privada Dirty Rat in the flower bed just because it's a bit tight. I'm gonna do what I can to fix it, and this tool works a treat. Agreed that it will take a dozen more fixes to pay for itself, but I'm glad I got one.
If it works for you, then it is worth it! Kind of like everything in cigars, some people think any cigar over $5 is crazy, and some don't even flinch at a $25 cigar. Some use the $1.49 BIC lighter, and some $100 super fancy one. As long as you are happy with it, then it is all good.
I actually don't keep a separate poker of any kind, as I rarely have anything plugged, and I use my Xikar scissors a lot, which have a little poker that can flip out that has cleared anything I have ever really had a problem with. But that is just me. Thanks for the info though, I am a "cigar junk" guy, so I love to see stuff like that.
QuoteStogieDad - 1/13/2017 10:11 AM
If it works for you, then it is worth it! Kind of like everything in cigars, some people think any cigar over $5 is crazy, and some don't even flinch at a $25 cigar. Some use the $1.49 BIC lighter, and some $100 super fancy one. As long as you are happy with it, then it is all good.
I actually don't keep a separate poker of any kind, as I rarely have anything plugged, and I use my Xikar scissors a lot, which have a little poker that can flip out that has cleared anything I have ever really had a problem with. But that is just me. Thanks for the info though, I am a "cigar junk" guy, so I love to see stuff like that.
Agreed
QuoteBrlesq - 1/11/2017 8:25 PM
Most of us on the herf have been using a $10 Havana Saver for a draw tool. Has a 4" spiral shaft that does a nice clean job. But mostly we use them for nubbing every last puff of goodness from our cigars! :smoker:
:word: :cheer: :cigarman:
Looks like a good tool to add to my set of tools to use on my daughters want to be boyfriends in the future, may have to pick one up! $40 is just a drop in the bucket for a great tool when you really need it!
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I just checked out some of the reviews/videos. Looks like a great product to me. A tight draw is the WORST problem I ever seem to have with a cigar and can be so frustrating. I never had a true cigar poker, but have tried paper clips etc. with so-so results. If this product works as advertised, it's a small price to pay to insure a good draw. Should last a lifetime for the cost of a decent fiver. I'm surprised at the lukewarm reception. Gonna have to get one I think.
Just my .02c :biggrin:
Like many I feel it is a bit pricey for something that I really don't have much of an issue with. But in the one video it tells you that you can clear out some additional tobacco by blowing thru the opposite end. Ok, but putting the foot in you're mouth could wet the cigar and cause a bad light or initial burn?
QuoteCfickter - 1/14/2017 11:10 AM
Like many I feel it is a bit pricey for something that I really don't have much of an issue with. But in the one video it tells you that you can clear out some additional tobacco by blowing thru the opposite end. Ok, but putting the foot in you're mouth could wet the cigar and cause a bad light or initial burn?
That reminds me of an old joke:
One day, a farmer was tending to his livestock when he noticed that one of his cows was completely cross-eyed. He called up a veterinarian friend of his who told him to bring in his cow. The vet took one look at the cow, stuck a tube up the cow's butt, and blew into the tube until the cow's eyes straightened out. The vet charged the farmer a hundred bucks, and the farmer went home happy. About a week later, the cow's eyes were cross-eyed again, but this time the farmer figured he could probably take care of it himself. So he called his hired hand over, and together they put a tube up the cow's butt. The farmer put his lips to the tube and started to blow. Strangely, nothing happened, so he asked his hired hand to give it a try. The hired hand removed the tube, turned it around, put it in the cow's butt and started to blow.
"What are you doing?" asked the farmer, horrified.
"Well, I wasn't gonna use the side that YOU had put your lips on."
^^^ have mercy! :biggrin: yeah i have a length of #12 ground wire hanging off my Stinky for poking. can't beat a pipe for nubbing. i have stupid pricey toys so i'm not one to tell someone how to spend their cash. gonna light up a Behike and drink a $100 bottle of booze on Friday to celebrate the end of an error if that says anything about me pissing my cash away..
It's certainly different from a Havana Saver, so really the question would be...when does it pay back for the cost? I was really thinking about buying it, but their own over-hyped marketing talked me out of it:
How often do you light up your cigar and
proclaim, "Now THAT's a perfect draw!"
Probably not very often. But wouldn't it
be glorious if that happened with every
cigar... every time? Well, now it can with the
PerfecDraw! Click to see why you should
consider using the PerfecDraw...
Come to think of it, the answer is "nearly all the time." I smoke a lot of cigars, and draw issues happen maybe a couple times a month. "Unsmokable" draw issues happen maybe monthly. As a wild guess, that's got to be over 50 cigars smoked, with one bad one. So it would take years to pay for itself.
QuoteCfickter - 1/14/2017 1:10 PM
Like many I feel it is a bit pricey for something that I really don't have much of an issue with. But in the one video it tells you that you can clear out some additional tobacco by blowing thru the opposite end. Ok, but putting the foot in you're mouth could wet the cigar and cause a bad light or initial burn?
Screw the light, how about burning your mouth. LMAO. Sorry I couldn't resist. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I used to have plugged or tight cigars pretty regularly when I kept my humidity at 70%-ish. I dropped it to 65%-ish and most of my draw problems went away. Now the only cigars I ever have a problem with are cheap ones, where the problem is caused by poor rolling rather than poor humidity.
Agreed, I run 69% Boveda packs which gives an actual (calibrated) humidity of 66-67. Better burn than 70%.
62-65% in all of mine
QuoteBrlesq - 3/30/2017 8:16 PM
62-65% in all of mine
Ditto :thumbsup:
I have been using a large paper clip and/or a large safety pin (straightened out) for this many years (if and when needed)..........they are a lot cheaper than 40 bones...JMHO....but a nice little tool thingy "what-cha-ma-call-it" for the person who likes those type accessories.