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Title: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: M82 on 05/25/2017 09:29 PM
Having friends over for the long weekend - hoping to smoke a cigar and enjoy an Old Fashioned in the evenings. Question I have is after reading recipes for this the "original" cocktail, I see multiple options for the actual fuel in it. What has anybody reading this used if you've mixed one. Trying to decide between Makers Mark and Gentleman Jacks -
Any ideas for me as I light my first premium cigar ever while enjoying my first Old Fashioned ? ( Having some hard candy on hand for my first stogie?  - got that :)  Thanks !
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: ninfiction on 05/25/2017 09:55 PM
I have a friend that makes a spectacular Old Fashioned, he uses Jack Daniels. sugar cube, bitters, orange peel or small slice, maraschino cheery + juice. Oh man...

It's almost more about the other ingredients than the whiskey or bourbon, bitters is important I think
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: Cap10_Morgan on 05/25/2017 09:58 PM
Sounds good.  Anyone want to share the actual recipe (portions) of a great old fashioned along with what brands?
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: ninfiction on 05/25/2017 10:14 PM
Here's one I found on the Google that seems very close to what my friend makes. When using bitters a little goes a long way, so 2-3 dashes is it. If you don't have a muddler just use anything that will smash the sugar cube.


    2 oz bourbon or rye -- I've used Maker's Mark, Hudson Whiskey Maple Cask Rye, and Seagrams 7 before, my favorite is Maker's Mark
    Sugar cube and a splash of water or a small amount of rich simple syrup (2:1 sugar to water)
    Bitters -- I've used Angostura and Hudson Whiskey Basement Bitters before
    Garnishes -- orange peel and maraschino cherry

If using a sugar cube, I douse the sugar cube in bitters. add a splash of water to help things along, and muddle the s**t out of it. If using simple syrup, I add the simple syrup and the bitters, then stir to combine. Then I add the cherry, then the ice, then the whiskey. Stir the drink a few times to chill. Express the oils from the orange peel over the drink, rub it around the rim of the glass, then slip it into the drink.


Edit: You can use club soda or something instead of water, you don't need a lot. And do add a splash of maraschino juice to top it off.
Title: RE: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: Rebecca Silverwolf on 05/25/2017 10:28 PM
An Old Fashioned contains:
1 tsp Granulated Sugar (or one sugar cube)
1-3 Dashes of Bitters (to taste, Angostura is the classic)
1.5-2 oz Bourbon
Splash of Water or Soda Water

Muddle the sugar, thoroughly, with the bitters and water in a lowball glass. (Sometimes called an Old Fashioned glass) Add ice to fill the glass, then add the bourbon. Stir gently.

While not traditional, a garnish of orange and a cherry is popular.




As far as what whiskey to use, between the choice of Gentleman Jack and Makers Mark, I would go with Makers. My bourbon of choice is Bulleit, personally.
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: cavenbk on 05/25/2017 10:40 PM
I actually use Irish whiskey, Jameson's, when I make my Old Fashioned. I also sometimes use orange bitters instead of Angostura just to mix things up, so to speak.
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: sar127 on 05/25/2017 11:32 PM
I've always used Woodford in mine.  :confused:
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: M82 on 05/26/2017 04:36 AM
Quoteninfiction - 5/25/2017  10:55 PM

I have a friend that makes a spectacular Old Fashioned, he uses Jack Daniels. sugar cube, bitters, orange peel or small slice, maraschino cheery + juice. Oh man...

It's almost more about the other ingredients than the whiskey or bourbon, bitters is important I think

Yep this is what I plan to do - I do have the Angostura bitters - Think I'll try the Gentleman Jacks. Also have some great Old Fashioned glasses and a muddle and stirrer in cart at Amazon. Wanted to make sure I liked these before moving forward with the whole kit.
Something about a classic old cocktail like this and a cigar. To me it seems fitting so I'm building up my inventory of cigars and giving this one a go. I'll let you know how it goes as well as the cigar ! . (I think I'm going to choose the Arturo Fuente Gran Reserva Rothschild as my first cigar.. )
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: klamm143 on 05/26/2017 06:23 AM

Quoteninfiction - 5/25/2017  11:14 PM  Here's one I found on the Google that seems very close to what my friend makes. When using bitters a little goes a long way, so 2-3 dashes is it. If you don't have a muddler just use anything that will smash the sugar cube.        2 oz bourbon or rye -- I've used Maker's Mark, Hudson Whiskey Maple Cask Rye, and Seagrams 7 before, my favorite is Maker's Mark     Sugar cube and a splash of water or a small amount of rich simple syrup (2:1 sugar to water)     Bitters -- I've used Angostura and Hudson Whiskey Basement Bitters before     Garnishes -- orange peel and maraschino cherry  If using a sugar cube, I douse the sugar cube in bitters. add a splash of water to help things along, and muddle the s**t out of it. If using simple syrup, I add the simple syrup and the bitters, then stir to combine. Then I add the cherry, then the ice, then the whiskey. Stir the drink a few times to chill. Express the oils from the orange peel over the drink, rub it around the rim of the glass, then slip it into the drink.   Edit: You can use club soda or something instead of water, you don't need a lot. And do add a splash of maraschino juice to top it off.

 



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Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: Cfickter on 05/26/2017 06:34 AM
well that is enough on the drinks, lets talk about the cigar.
Are you going to buy something or chose from your humidor?  If buying what is your budget?
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: shakinghorizons on 05/26/2017 08:36 AM
I have never heard of using anything other than Southern Comfort.
Title: RE: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: Deener27 on 05/26/2017 08:43 AM
Or you could step up to the plate and make a Scotch Old Fashioned.   :biggrin:

I second the notion that you use 1.5-2 oz of liquor, muddle together an orange slice, a sugar cube, a cherry and some orange bitters.  If you can find Fee Brothers, that is a fine bottle of bitters.  Mix together and I use a dash of soda water.  Damn fine drink.
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: M82 on 05/26/2017 12:35 PM
QuoteCfickter - 5/26/2017  7:34 AM

well that is enough on the drinks, lets talk about the cigar.
Are you going to buy something or chose from your humidor?  If buying what is your budget?

Going to hit the humidor stash ! Was thinking the Arturo Fuentes Rothschild ? Maybe the Baccarat ? Something easy going - well most if not all of my inventory is mild to medium.
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: M82 on 05/26/2017 12:47 PM
OR do I go all in and have the HDM Petite Robusto ? As I do have a few of those  :) make my first an ISOM
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: Jackal on 05/26/2017 01:23 PM
Anyone muddling the orange or cherry needs to be put on a raft and pushed out to sea.

For a less sweet old fashioned, I enjoy Forty Creek in place of bourbon.
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: M82 on 05/26/2017 01:26 PM
I was just going to drop the cherry in - squeeze the orange peel to release the oils and drop it in. Muddle the sugar cube spritzed with bitters.

"Put on a raft and pushed out to sea"  :lmao:  :lmao:
Title: RE: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: toby2 on 05/26/2017 02:50 PM

sounds interesting but  i'm with Michaleen Oge Flynn, "When I drink whiskey I drink whiskey ad when I drink water I drink water". never could go for sweet drinks.

Title: RE: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: M82 on 05/26/2017 03:59 PM
Quotetoby2 - 5/26/2017  3:50 PM

sounds interesting but  i'm with Michaleen Oge Flynn, "When I drink whiskey I drink whiskey ad when I drink water I drink water". never could go for sweet drinks.


My brother JUST told me I should only be mixing that Gentleman Jacks with...... ice.  hahah
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: cavenbk on 05/27/2017 03:51 PM
Looks good! What whiskey did you decide to go with?
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: M82 on 05/27/2017 05:46 PM
Which option do I choose for the picture on PhotoBucket. Can't get it to post right ! I guess after choosing share and get links I'm picking the wrong one.  :-0
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: M82 on 05/27/2017 05:50 PM
We went with the Gentleman Jacks -  after the first one we forgot the bitters and sugar and all that. Pouring the good Gentleman right on ice and adding a cherry for decoration. Hopefully rain will get out of here and we will have round two tonight.
Somebody help me with the pictures and I'll add more -  :cigarman:
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: Cap10_Morgan on 05/27/2017 08:42 PM
QuoteM82 - 5/27/2017  6:46 PM

Which option do I choose for the picture on PhotoBucket. Can't get it to post right ! I guess after choosing share and get links I'm picking the wrong one.  :-0


HTML link is the one you want.  The one that starts with < followed by a href (sorry, couldnt spell it out without it thinking it was code.

Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: Cap10_Morgan on 05/27/2017 08:46 PM
Also, thanks for letting me semi-hijack your thread asking for recipes.  I picked up some Angostura bitters, oranges and cherries.  Added to the Old Forester bourbon I had on hand (I don't mix expensive booze" and simple syrup also on hand.  Took a few to get right, but had to go heavy on the bourbon and like ONE dash of bitters, and it is pretty darn tasty!
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: M82 on 05/28/2017 07:25 AM
QuoteCap10_Morgan - 5/27/2017  9:42 PM

QuoteM82 - 5/27/2017  6:46 PM

Which option do I choose for the picture on PhotoBucket. Can't get it to post right ! I guess after choosing share and get links I'm picking the wrong one.  :-0


HTML link is the one you want.  The one that starts with < followed by a href (sorry, couldnt spell it out without it thinking it was code.


Thanks !
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: M82 on 05/28/2017 07:27 AM
QuoteCap10_Morgan - 5/27/2017  9:46 PM

Also, thanks for letting me semi-hijack your thread asking for recipes.  I picked up some Angostura bitters, oranges and cherries.  Added to the Old Forester bourbon I had on hand (I don't mix expensive booze" and simple syrup also on hand.  Took a few to get right, but had to go heavy on the bourbon and like ONE dash of bitters, and it is pretty darn tasty!

No problem ! Glad you "joined" us !
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: M82 on 05/28/2017 07:34 AM
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Huh... What gives ?
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: Cap10_Morgan on 05/28/2017 08:24 AM
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Hmm, works for me.  When you are typing, on the bottom, you don't have "disable html" checked do you?  I literally just copied and pasted your post and it worked.
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: M82 on 05/28/2017 08:52 AM
Night Two - Oliva was a bit milder but a great smoke!
I don't see that disable html option here now BUT will check when I start a new thread- Thanks for your help fixing that and this one !
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Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: McBryde on 05/28/2017 05:49 PM
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Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: Otter on 05/28/2017 05:50 PM
I make an Old Fashioned with Woodford Reserve but I created a play on the Old Fashioned for our lounge I call the Angel's Compassion. It's 2 oz of Angels Envy Bourbon with a splash of Compari and a little simple syrup - stir and enjoy :)
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: 87North on 06/05/2017 12:45 PM
QuoteJackal - 5/26/2017  4:23 PM

Anyone muddling the orange or cherry needs to be put on a raft and pushed out to sea.

For a less sweet old fashioned, I enjoy Forty Creek in place of bourbon.

Thats why I like mine made with higher proof Rye...
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: Cap10_Morgan on 06/22/2017 04:17 PM
I've been experimenting with this  since this post started.  I had never had an old fashioned (so thank you again!) and really liked the potential when I first tried it.  But after a month, here is my perfect recipe:

.5 oz simple syrup (i had on hand and also im just too lazy to muddle anything, lol)
3 dashes Angostura
4 oz Bulleit bourbon
1 orange slice rubbed around rim and dropped in glass
1 cherry + 1 spoonful of cherry juice
4 cubes of ice

Thats my version of a "less sweet" old fashioned, lol.
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: M82 on 06/22/2017 04:52 PM
Ive migrated to Bulleit as well. I have been putting two cherries, one spoon of the cherry juice and 4 oz bourbon on ice.. Cherry Jubilee !
Your recipe looks like a winner though. Have to try that when i get some simple syrup.
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: Cap10_Morgan on 06/22/2017 05:00 PM
Ha!  Similar tastes it looks like.  The whole 1.5-2oz of bourbon just wasn't cutting it for me.
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: jharrisx5 on 06/23/2017 05:45 PM
Sometimes I just look at all the other ingredients and pound a slug of whiskey... That old fashioned enough for ya?
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: Cap10_Morgan on 06/23/2017 08:24 PM

Quotejharrisx5 - 6/23/2017  6:45 PM  Sometimes I just look at all the other ingredients and pound a slug of whiskey... That old fashioned enough for ya?

 Actually, sounds about perfect!  lol

Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: M82 on 06/23/2017 08:33 PM
Sure does ! Bulleit on ice with two cherries in it right now.  Cherry Jubilee -
Title: Re: Old Fashioned - Makers or the Gentleman
Post by: Fran95 on 06/23/2017 09:06 PM
I'm gonna have to try the 4oz recipe with no bitters and "Two Stars" bourbon or maybe something else. I've also never had an old fashioned  :smoker: