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Title: Hurricane Irma
Post by: Silverstix on 09/06/2017 08:18 AM

With Hurricane Irma barreling down on the Dominican Republic and Cuba, it made me wonder what type of impact a major hurricane could have on the cigar industry......in terms of decimating crops, damaging barns and structures, etc.

Pretty scary stuff going on down there......hope it isn't as bad for those people as it sounds.....

Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: BrockDB on 09/06/2017 08:21 AM
I was thinking the same thing yesterday.  But I would think over the decades of storms coming through those areas, they would have contingency plans for the cigars?  As for the crops, I don't know if there is anything they can do...  I think there will be an impact though.
Title: RE: Hurricane Irma
Post by: Deener27 on 09/06/2017 09:08 AM
The good news is (at least for the tobacco crop) that the seed is not in the ground yet for the 2018 plants.  They plant as early as now and as late as December.  Early to mid May 2017, all of the plantings were in late harvest or already in cure.  They plant and harvest at those times of year because the weather is absolute perfect and have high sun.

As for the crop out of the ground, they are in barns or in factories for sure.  Even if there was a major storm, hopefully there will be enough supply to keep the good cigars coming without a ton of price hikes.  Also, I am hopeful that the impact on the people and infrastructure is minimal.  These folks have had centuries of experience with this sort of thing so even if it comes through as a Cat 5, the people know how to deal with it.  Best wishes and safety to everyone down there.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: Mautrak on 09/06/2017 06:50 PM
I just went online to place an order with Cigar Place and their website notes they are taking orders online, but their customer service and shipping departments are closed tomorrow through Monday.  And from Monday on, they just don't know!
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: cigar-guy on 09/06/2017 09:21 PM
I remember back in 2005 when there were 4 hurricanes that Cuba got rocked pretty badly.  I had heard that Cuba was buying some tobacco from Plasencia Nicaragua.  I'd be more worried about the FDA then any problems from the storms
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: Jackal on 09/07/2017 01:29 AM
Hopefully,  it won't do the kind of damage that was seen in 2008 or 1998 that wiped out the Fuente storage or devastated the Jamaican cigar industries repectively.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: calvarez on 09/07/2017 02:32 AM
Kind of glad I am way over-stocked.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: Olddog on 09/07/2017 04:24 AM
The way things look now, Florida is gonna get clobbered and a lot of stock is probably going to be wiped out there as well.  Looks like some tough times ahead for a lot of businesses.  But this has happened before and hopefully they are prepared for it as best as can be.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: calvarez on 09/07/2017 10:49 AM
I have family there, some who are into cigars.  At least one shop has packed most of their inventory into a truck and is driving North.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: toby2 on 09/07/2017 01:54 PM
wow just left the store. there isn't much bottled water left and i'm pretty far inland.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: Vroomp on 09/07/2017 02:16 PM
Saw Aquafina for $38.88 a 24 pack on Amazon this morning..... :biggrin:
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: toby2 on 09/07/2017 02:30 PM

QuoteVroomp - 9/7/2017  3:16 PM  Saw Aquafina for $38.88 a 24 pack on Amazon this morning..... :biggrin:

 just looked. there is one for $54 as well. crazy. 

Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: calvarez on 09/07/2017 02:37 PM
The Nestle guy just dropped off ten cases (special sale).

No matter what you pay on Amazon, how are they going to deliver tomorrow...?
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: Shukpaw on 09/07/2017 02:49 PM
I pray all the cigar rollers are safe.  It's hard enough for most of the people in that region without all the devastation.
Title: RE: Hurricane Irma
Post by: gitfiddl on 09/07/2017 06:04 PM
Hey guys and gals!

This hurricane is one bad bitch of a storm.  I've lived in NE Florida for most of my 52 years on this big blue ball and this one has me scared.  I haven't heard any reports yet from the Dominican Republic as the storm passes by just north of that island as I type this.  It looks like Irma is gonna skirt the northern coast of Cuba before she hangs a hard right into Miami as a CAT4 or 5.  I'm not sure how much of South Florida south and east of Lake Okeechobee will be recognizable.  I may be wrong, but if I'm not mistaken, a lot of the major players in the cigar industry still call Miami home, have vast amounts of inventory stored there, and still operate factories in the area.  

NE Florida is still days' away from any sort of impact, and they've already issued mandatory evacuation orders for St Johns County (St Augustine) just south of me.  The gas station I use is out of gas.  The latest track has Irma diminishing in strength to a CAT2 by the time it reaches us in Jacksonville sometime around noon on Monday.  That we can deal with, Good Lord willing, at the Casa D' Dave, but things can still change.

Say your prayers for all of us down here.
Title: RE: Hurricane Irma
Post by: jagfandaddy on 09/07/2017 07:09 PM
I'll wave as I fly by your house!
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: Jackal on 09/08/2017 01:40 AM
Now there is a possible Tsunami from the 8.2 earthquake that hit off of Mexico.   Eucador, Honduras and Nicaragua are in the probable path.  This is serious Wrath of God kind of stuff hitting the tobacco countries.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: bstessl on 09/08/2017 03:25 AM
QuoteJackal - 9/8/2017  1:40 AM

This is serious Wrath of God kind of stuff hitting the tobacco countries.

I'm still gonna smoke my cigars...
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: klamm143 on 09/08/2017 04:01 AM
All the more reasons to stock up whenever possible.........as if enabling was something new...!!!!   Stay safe everyone. - No such thing as too many cigars in the Humi's.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: calvarez on 09/08/2017 02:27 PM
Quoteklamm143 - 9/8/2017  2:01 AM
No such thing as too many cigars in the Humi's.

Sure, but when are there too many humidors for the house?  I'm on my second "overflow" mega-Tupperware, and two 2.5 gallon freezer bags now, besides my main humidor that probably holds 300.

"BUT THEY WERE ON SALE"

Seriously I picked up some very good sticks on a crazy deal for $1.10 each.  I think there was a site pricing error.
Title: RE: Hurricane Irma
Post by: Olddog on 09/08/2017 02:30 PM
Saw this little article on Cigar Aficionado about some of the hurricane's impact so far.  Sounds encouraging so far..... http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatures/show/id/hurricane-irma-moves-through-cigar-country-19558
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: johncw on 09/08/2017 05:56 PM
Quotetoby2 - 9/7/2017  5:30 PM

QuoteVroomp - 9/7/2017  3:16 PM  Saw Aquafina for $38.88 a 24 pack on Amazon this morning..... :biggrin:

 just looked. there is one for $54 as well. crazy. 


that is just asinine.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: danb6177 on 09/09/2017 06:08 AM
Looks like I'm getting this one right in the face
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: Vroomp on 09/10/2017 05:48 AM

Quotedanb6177 - 9/9/2017  7:08 AM  Looks like I'm getting this one right in the face

 Stay safe brother~! It's coming your way~!

Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: DonM on 09/10/2017 10:14 AM
Quotedanb6177 - 9/9/2017  10:08 AM

Looks like I'm getting this one right in the face

Stay safe!  Looks like it is going to be a rough one for sure. I evacuated inland to Inverness. High but not dry here. Will keep you all posted
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: Cap10_Morgan on 09/10/2017 10:51 AM
Hope you took your cigars with you, Don.  That's my plan anyway.  Once power goes out, I'm gonna just stay outside or in the garage smoking cigars and drinking some booze til this thing passes.  Stay safe, fellow Floridians.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: danb6177 on 09/10/2017 11:24 AM
QuoteDonM - 9/10/2017  11:14 AM

Quotedanb6177 - 9/9/2017  10:08 AM

Looks like I'm getting this one right in the face

Stay safe!  Looks like it is going to be a rough one for sure. I evacuated inland to Inverness. High but not dry here. Will keep you all posted

Yes you to brother, Family is safe from the flooding and Im working at the power plant until this thing is done so we should be safe. This thing could not have aimed itself any better at us.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: danb6177 on 09/10/2017 12:19 PM
QuoteCap10_Morgan - 9/10/2017  11:51 AM

Hope you took your cigars with you, Don.  That's my plan anyway.  Once power goes out, I'm gonna just stay outside or in the garage smoking cigars and drinking some booze til this thing passes.  Stay safe, fellow Floridians.

Humidor was last thing I grabbed on way to work. And hey man I finally bought a pipe. So if I get a chance tonight I'll light that bad boy up and give it a try.
Title: RE: Hurricane Irma
Post by: MacMac on 09/10/2017 07:55 PM
PRAYING for all in the wake of this hurricane!
Title: RE: Hurricane Irma
Post by: MacMac on 09/10/2017 07:55 PM
PRAYING for all in the wake of this hurricane!
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: Silverstix on 09/11/2017 07:29 AM

Quotedanb6177 - 9/10/2017  1:19 PM  
QuoteCap10_Morgan - 9/10/2017  11:51 AM  Hope you took your cigars with you, Don.  That's my plan anyway.  Once power goes out, I'm gonna just stay outside or in the garage smoking cigars and drinking some booze til this thing passes.  Stay safe, fellow Floridians.
Humidor was last thing I grabbed on way to work. And hey man I finally bought a pipe. So if I get a chance tonight I'll light that bad boy up and give it a try.

 

How you holding up, Dan?  Wanted to send you a PM last night but I didn't have access to a computer  

Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: danb6177 on 09/11/2017 04:15 PM
Well that was quite a night. Tampa took a beating but we did ok. House did not flood and took no damage to the house. The house my family went to kept power thoughout and they did just fine. At the plant was a different story. We are on the gulf so we got it bad. Plant was de-powered before it hit but irma bombarded us and eventually our start up transformer (this supplies aux power to the plant) arced and went on fire blacking out the plant. From there on we were in emergency operations . But anyway im back home now and besides yard clean up we are good. Alot of people around here were not so lucky. Thanx for everyones thoughts and prayers, they worked!!
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: calvarez on 09/11/2017 04:24 PM
We had crazy wind last night here in AZ.  We will rebuild.

https://i.imgur.com/6xwu6Y2.jpg
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: 05Venturer on 09/11/2017 04:47 PM
Quotedanb6177 - 9/11/2017  4:15 PM

Well that was quite a night. Tampa took a beating but we did ok. House did not flood and took no damage to the house. The house my family went to kept power thoughout and they did just fine. At the plant was a different story. We are on the gulf so we got it bad. Plant was de-powered before it hit but irma bombarded us and eventually our start up transformer (this supplies aux power to the plant) arced and went on fire blacking out the plant. From there on we were in emergency operations . But anyway im back home now and besides yard clean up we are good. Alot of people around here were not so lucky. Thanx for everyones thoughts and prayers, they worked!!

Great News Brother   :bigthumbs:
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: 05Venturer on 09/11/2017 04:47 PM
Quotecalvarez - 9/11/2017  4:24 PM

We had crazy wind last night here in AZ.  We will rebuild.

https://i.imgur.com/6xwu6Y2.jpg

 :lmao:
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: Olddog on 09/11/2017 06:08 PM
Hope that bottle was empty before it fell over and didn't bleed to death
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: jagfandaddy on 09/11/2017 08:19 PM
We have power!! Now to get the roof replaced!
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: danb6177 on 09/11/2017 08:25 PM
Quotejagfandaddy - 9/11/2017  9:19 PM

We have power!! Now to get the roof replaced!

Oh man. Did you take alotnof damage?
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: jagfandaddy on 09/11/2017 08:30 PM
Quotedanb6177 - 9/11/2017  9:25 PM

Quotejagfandaddy - 9/11/2017  9:19 PM

We have power!! Now to get the roof replaced!

Oh man. Did you take alotnof damage?


Just a bunch of shingles. Power was out from 11pm last night until about 45 min ago. I have a generator so no problem there.
I have lived here my entire 52 yrs and have never seen it this bad. Jacksonville was on CNN due to the flooding. There was a few streets around our neighborhood that were underwater, but we were lucky.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: toby2 on 09/11/2017 09:38 PM
good to see everyone made it with not so much damage. we got lucky. most of our community is w/o power. we aren't. i had two generators and gas etc. ready but we just got  trees down and a few blinks.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: danb6177 on 09/11/2017 10:44 PM
Quotejagfandaddy - 9/11/2017  9:30 PM

Quotedanb6177 - 9/11/2017  9:25 PM

Quotejagfandaddy - 9/11/2017  9:19 PM

We have power!! Now to get the roof replaced!

Oh man. Did you take alotnof damage?


Just a bunch of shingles. Power was out from 11pm last night until about 45 min ago. I have a generator so no problem there.
I have lived here my entire 52 yrs and have never seen it this bad. Jacksonville was on CNN due to the flooding. There was a few streets around our neighborhood that were underwater, but we were lucky.

Yeah brother this was bad bad. Im just glad you are ok. So many lost so much yesterday. how did the frogs do? Id miss them on the herf if they didnt make it
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: danb6177 on 09/11/2017 10:46 PM
Quotetoby2 - 9/11/2017  10:38 PM

good to see everyone made it with not so much damage. we got lucky. most of our community is w/o power. we aren't. i had two generators and gas etc. ready but we just got  trees down and a few blinks.

Gald to hear you made it through brother!
Title: RE: Hurricane Irma
Post by: DonM on 09/12/2017 01:51 PM
Good here, no damage. Lesson learned, my wife does not have near enough Tupperware to evacuate my humidor. Maybe 1/3.

Upon return, no power. We took some and gave away food before we left so that it was not wasted.  My neighbors ate like kings and rode  the storm out.  We were in an evacuation zone  and my fat ass can't swim so good much less in a storm so we hauled ass.

I will buy a generator for future use. Enough to at least run the fridge, lights and a few fans.

Hey, at least everyone is safe. Sorry to hear of the damage, roof, etc.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: Cap10_Morgan on 09/12/2017 03:31 PM
Can't believe how much widespread flooding in Jacksonville.  I have  a few friends that lost everything.  It was mostly flooding in Jax and not wind, so my family is fine.  Lost power for a while, fence down, roof damage, etc, but nothing big.  For some reason, we got power back the next day....neighbor to my left is still without power and 4 houses down to right is still without.  Don't know how that happened, but I'll take it!
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: danb6177 on 09/13/2017 02:24 PM
Looks like the update says my area won't have power until earliest Saturday. I told them that this was cutting into my herf life and to my surprise they didn't really care about that.
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: Smokin surfer on 09/19/2017 08:58 PM
I am truly sorry and relieved that the damage was mostly material. But I was praying for surf!
Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: Silverstix on 09/20/2017 07:30 AM

Quotedanb6177 - 9/13/2017  3:24 PM  Looks like the update says my area won't have power until earliest Saturday. I told them that this was cutting into my herf life and to my surprise they didn't really care about that.

 

How you making out down there, bud? 

Title: Re: Hurricane Irma
Post by: danb6177 on 09/20/2017 08:44 AM
QuoteSilverstix - 9/20/2017  8:30 AM

Quotedanb6177 - 9/13/2017  3:24 PM  Looks like the update says my area won't have power until earliest Saturday. I told them that this was cutting into my herf life and to my surprise they didn't really care about that.

 

How you making out down there, bud? 


Almost back to normal. Still no internet. Just on my phone. Hopefully they get that resolved today. Other than that we got pretty lucky. No damage. Lost the food in the fridge and that's about it. Thanx for asking man