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Title: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: junglepete on 01/07/2018 09:58 AM
So, my darling wife bought me a box of 4x60 mixed Tubos of Oliva Nubs. I thought they did not look like a 60 ring gauge so I measured a few of them. They were consistenly 7/8"...which amounts to a 56 ring gauge not a 60 at all. So now I was curious and took out an Oliva V Doule Robusto to measure. They consistently measured at barely 3/4"...which amounts to a whopping 48 ring gauge. Now I feel cheated!!  :angry: I suppose I could understand about a bit of shrinkage, but really, touted as a 56 and customers receive a 48, that's equal to the shrikage of a man being submerged in a cold swimming pool.
Title: RE: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: Deener27 on 01/07/2018 12:06 PM
With enough humidity, I'm sure they will swell to the advertised size.
Title: RE: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: Brlesq on 01/07/2018 12:08 PM
QuoteDeener27 - 1/7/2018  1:06 PM

With enough humidity, I'm sure they will swell to the advertised size.

 :lmao:

Title: RE: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: junglepete on 01/07/2018 04:06 PM
QuoteDeener27 - 1/7/2018  4:06 PM

With enough humidity, I'm sure they will swell to the advertised size.

 :biggrin: :lmao: good one!

Now that I think about it, again, if they really did shrink, would not the band be sliding off? All the bands on my cigars fit perfectly. My humidity is a constant 65%. I think advertising a 54 ring gauge when it is actually a 48 is a bit too much of a discrepancy. Hmm...6/64" is only approx. 1/10"...seems like not much in the end. But when purchasing a Robusto vs. a Double Robusto, the price sure is different.
Title: Re: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: shakinghorizons on 01/07/2018 06:41 PM
Very strange find indeed. I can honestly say I've never once measured a ring gauge or length.
Title: Re: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: headfirst on 01/07/2018 08:27 PM
I'll have to post a picture of some Padilla Vintage Reserve I bought.  They're box pressed and I swear within the same box I saw everything from 46 to 56 size...
Title: Re: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: Cfickter on 01/08/2018 06:55 AM
Sounds like the makings of a good conspiracy plot!
Title: RE: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: Deener27 on 01/08/2018 07:57 AM
Quotejunglepete - 1/7/2018  4:06 PM

QuoteDeener27 - 1/7/2018  4:06 PM

With enough humidity, I'm sure they will swell to the advertised size.

 :biggrin: :lmao: good one!

Now that I think about it, again, if they really did shrink, would not the band be sliding off? All the bands on my cigars fit perfectly. My humidity is a constant 65%. I think advertising a 54 ring gauge when it is actually a 48 is a bit too much of a discrepancy. Hmm...6/64" is only approx. 1/10"...seems like not much in the end. But when purchasing a Robusto vs. a Double Robusto, the price sure is different.

If they did shrink, the bands would come right off, unless they have taken to gluing them to the wrapper (which, I swear, a few brands are terrible about doing).

Sounds like there is something going on to me.
Title: Re: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: Cap10_Morgan on 01/08/2018 09:02 AM
This might explain why I had a hard time finding the right sizes when I was first adding a bunch of random cigars to my humidor from the database.  I'm pretty sure there were some Oliva I has an issue with as well.
Title: Re: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: Silverstix on 01/08/2018 09:16 AM
I was always told that size isn't everything......have I been lied to all this time????
Title: Re: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: Deener27 on 01/08/2018 09:26 AM
QuoteSilverstix - 1/8/2018  9:16 AM

I was always told that size isn't everything......have I been lied to all this time????
:?:
Title: Re: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: DRuff on 01/08/2018 12:09 PM
So, you're one of those "measuring" types, eh?
Title: RE: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: DonM on 01/08/2018 02:15 PM
Pete got him a digital measuring caliper for Christmas....

made by Johnson

https://www.zoro.com/johnson-digital-caliper-0-to-6-in-1889-0600/i/G5314181/

 :biggrin:

Title: RE: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: Otter on 01/09/2018 05:40 PM
QuoteDonM - 1/8/2018  6:15 PM

Pete got him a digital measuring caliper for Christmas....

made by Johnson

https://www.zoro.com/johnson-digital-caliper-0-to-6-in-1889-0600/i/G5314181/

 :biggrin:


 :bigthumbs:
Title: Re: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: MusicCity on 01/10/2018 10:22 AM
I've noticed bands on a few sticks are looser after keeping them at a lower RH. Doesn't bother me though because I'm not a size queen ;)
Title: Re: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: nirab on 01/10/2018 05:02 PM
quickly smoke em, and then forget about em...move on to the next one...or two!  :biggrin:
Title: RE: What's Up With "Fake" Ring Gauge Sizes?
Post by: junglepete on 01/10/2018 06:19 PM
QuoteDonM - 1/8/2018  6:15 PM

Pete got him a digital measuring caliper for Christmas....

made by Johnson

https://www.zoro.com/johnson-digital-caliper-0-to-6-in-1889-0600/i/G5314181/

 :biggrin:


Hmm....I don't own a caliper, however, that might not be a bad idea. Then I'll write an article here and add all the actual gauge sizes to all the brands I smoke  :biggrin: