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Title: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: DRuff on 09/24/2018 04:11 PM
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Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: bstessl on 09/24/2018 04:31 PM
But, you can't copy and paste the good info...
Title: RE: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: Brlesq on 09/24/2018 06:17 PM
Agreed, there is nothing of value in "score-only" review like that to the reader.  But until recently, the author (Kyle Stogez) used to post his scoring format along with some descriptive terms of his entire smoking experience that I thought was helpful.  Maybe not formatted the traditional way that most people prefer, but perfectly acceptable IMO.  Here's an example:







Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: DRuff on 09/24/2018 10:11 PM
Agreed
Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: klamm143 on 09/24/2018 11:10 PM
Numbers only.............about like smoking a "dollar stick".............Numbers and a little Description - well now - that's a mid range to " high end yard gar"............Numbers, Description and a Pic - now you are in Padron Country.
Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: Cfickter on 09/25/2018 07:12 AM
While I agree using a straight ranking by numbers doesn't feed the masses. for the most part it is personal to the reviewer.  What is an 8 to someone is an 9 to or 7 to another, where one tastes cedar another tastes leather.
 
I have generally tried to be more narrative with my reviews, especially the critiques. But even the Geek critique rating system puts too much weight on items like appearance and construction while the flavor profile only accounts for 1/3. far too small IMHO

I'm not sure any system is perfect.
Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: Silverstix on 09/25/2018 07:28 AM
I usually use the following categories and values, along with a description in each:

Appearance: 15
Smoking Characteristics: 25
Taste: 25
Overall: 35

I may tweak this though, going back through my notes I find there are too many times when a cigar burns great and looks great but tastes like cardboard, but it ends up too close in score to say a Padron which is ugly as sin but tastes very good.
Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: Silverstix on 09/25/2018 07:30 AM
Maybe I'll do:

Appearance: 10
Smoking Characteristics: 20
Taste: 35
Overall: 35
Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: kurtb718 on 10/01/2018 05:41 PM
So I realize I'm a new guy on the block here but these points only reviews are basically worthless to a newbie looking to try new cigars.
My 2 cents is that is your going to review you should put at least some effort into it. I see 4 more just showed up like this.  :confused:
Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: Kid Montana on 10/01/2018 06:06 PM
Quotekurtb718 - 10/1/2018  3:41 PM

So I realize I'm a new guy on the block here but these points only reviews are basically worthless to a newbie looking to try new cigars.
My 2 cents is that is your going to review you should put at least some effort into it. I see 4 more just showed up like this.  :confused:

When I PMed Kyle Stogez about it, he replied "I really don't give a s**t."  Maybe an Admin could message him and ask him to update his reviews to be a bit more descriptive, or maybe just ban him.   :confused:
Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: bstessl on 10/01/2018 07:22 PM
4 reviews in 6 minutes is totally legit...
Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: Silverstix on 10/01/2018 07:55 PM
Those reviews are completely useless lol
Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: junglepete on 10/01/2018 08:22 PM
"Please note that there is a minimum number of characters required (150) in order to submit a review so that your experience may provide others with some helpful information. A very brief synopsis regarding flavor, construction and burn will suffice, but feel free to be as detailed as you desire."

The above is the requirement. I will PM the member and ask him to meet it.
Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: CarlosoftHUN on 10/01/2018 11:51 PM
what I do not understand is, if someone can give detailed scoring, why he is unable to give the reasoning? I mean if  you explain why you gave low score on taste, because it was no taste, or bitter, etc, BAMM.. you are already there to give useful information.... and does not really require too much effort....
Or they are so lazy?
Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: Chefjohn on 10/02/2018 05:15 AM
Speaking as a person relatively new to cigars I like to see a lot of info in the review. It not only helps me as far as selection but also things to be aware of when smoking a cigar.
Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: Deener27 on 10/02/2018 06:02 AM
QuoteCarlosoftHUN - 10/1/2018  11:51 PM

what I do not understand is, if someone can give detailed scoring, why he is unable to give the reasoning? I mean if  you explain why you gave low score on taste, because it was no taste, or bitter, etc, BAMM.. you are already there to give useful information.... and does not really require too much effort....
Or they are so lazy?

It is a points grab to try to get the $25 GC from the monthly points contest.

It is completely against the rules (the 150 word count or better writeup) and really waters down the whole rating system.

It is just disappointing because CG is held in such high regard and this just tarnishes things.
Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: Deener27 on 10/02/2018 06:04 AM
Quotebstessl - 10/1/2018  7:22 PM

4 reviews in 6 minutes is totally legit...

He's an amateur anyway.  I have seen you review 6 sticks in 4 minutes, smoking them one by one, all while drinking a beer and doing a podcast...and none of them had burn issues.
Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: PETE314 on 10/02/2018 10:31 AM
QuoteDeener27 - 10/2/2018  10:04 AM  
Quotebstessl - 10/1/2018  7:22 PM  4 reviews in 6 minutes is totally legit...
He's an amateur anyway.  I have seen you review 6 sticks in 4 minutes, smoking them one by one, all while drinking a beer and doing a podcast...and none of them had burn issues.
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Title: RE: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: Adwinistrator on 10/04/2018 08:56 AM

How would you all rate my reviews?  Any specific info I should include that I've omitted?

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Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: Silverstix on 10/09/2018 12:15 PM
Sometimes, like today, I am posting my reviews from my weekend smokes and I will often post 2 or 3 in a day. I don't have much access to a computer on the weekends and it's too cumbersome for me to do the reviews on my phone, so I keep my notes and post them when I get in front of my computer.
Title: Re: The Yin and Yang of cigar reviews
Post by: bstessl on 10/11/2018 11:14 AM

QuoteSilverstix - 10/9/2018  12:15 PM  Sometimes, like today, I am posting my reviews from my weekend smokes and I will often post 2 or 3 in a day. I don't have much access to a computer on the weekends and it's too cumbersome for me to do the reviews on my phone, so I keep my notes and post them when I get in front of my computer.

 



Nothing wrong with that.  It's just when somebody has a copy and paste review where they change one adjective throughout the review... Lol