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Title: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: Adwinistrator on 01/03/2019 07:59 PM
So a few days ago, I went to smoke one of these, and noticed what looked like a tuft of fabric sticking out the end. I pulled on it, and about .75 inches came out before it broke off.

(https://i.imgur.com/sLQiIik_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
 

I wrote to Small Batch Cigar, who refunded me, as well as Viaje customer service, who explained that mistakes happen, and apologized. I told the Viaje rep that I would do a dissection, and could send him pictures, but he said no thanks...

Well, I did the dissection, and it turns out that it was not cotton I pulled out of the cigar, but mold...

After I got through the wrapper and binder, and a few layers of filler, I found a leaf with white dry mold on it, the same color as what I had pulled out of the foot. 

(https://i.imgur.com/5X40WGw.png)
 

Upon further disassembly, the layers underneath that mold spot had a wet and sticky pocket of tobacco. The likely cause (or subsequent effect) of this mold.

(https://i.imgur.com/kJtfiwd.png)
 

(https://i.imgur.com/5MQg3nY.png)


Quite gross and unexpected. I think I'll go ahead and forward this to that Viaje rep who declined the offer...
Title: RE: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: Brlesq on 01/03/2019 08:13 PM
What did you expect from a cigar from 1945?  :biggrin:
Title: RE: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: Adwinistrator on 01/03/2019 08:15 PM
QuoteBrlesq - 1/3/2019  9:13 PM

What did you expect from a cigar from 1945?  :biggrin:

CIRCA 1945

We don't know how much circa, exactly...  Could be a lot of circa...
Title: Re: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: headfirst on 01/04/2019 12:37 AM
Glad you caught it before you smoked it, dang...
Title: Re: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: Hot Stuff x on 01/04/2019 04:51 AM
Off topic -- what kind of car you got there with a manual transmission?    I'm guessing something early 2000's and Japanese
Title: RE: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: tvolball on 01/04/2019 05:55 AM
I've had the same thing in Jamie Garcia.
Title: RE: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: Beegerply on 01/04/2019 07:09 AM
That's better then a chicken feather. early on when I first started smoking cigars I bought some cheap one don't remember brand. But after cutting it I noticed something coming out the top. I pulled on it and it was a chicken feather, needless to say I pitched it LOL.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: Murphy223 on 01/04/2019 08:01 AM
Nasty indeed... good catch
Title: RE: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: appollo on 01/04/2019 08:45 AM
:-0 Nasty
Title: Re: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: Koop on 01/04/2019 09:08 AM
I'm surprised - and disappointed - the rep wasn't interested in the seeing the root of the problem.
Title: Re: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: Adwinistrator on 01/04/2019 09:09 AM
QuoteKoop - 1/4/2019  10:08 AM

I'm surprised - and disappointed - the rep wasn't interested in the seeing the root of the problem.

I think we both assumed it was just some cotton fabric that found it's way it, so I can understand thinking that's the end of it.

My decision to dissect was just to see how much fabric was rolled in there, I had no idea it was mold...
Title: Re: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: Adwinistrator on 01/04/2019 12:18 PM
QuoteHot Stuff x - 1/4/2019  5:51 AM

Off topic -- what kind of car you got there with a manual transmission?    I'm guessing something early 2000's and Japanese

2006 Subaru Legacy GT Spec B (#68/500) :biggrin:


QuoteBeegerply - 1/4/2019  8:09 AM

That's better then a chicken feather. early on when I first started smoking cigars I bought some cheap one don't remember brand. But after cutting it I noticed something coming out the top. I pulled on it and it was a chicken feather, needless to say I pitched it LOL.  :biggrin:

That's insane!
Title: Re: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: CoreyMacLeod on 01/04/2019 11:24 PM
Interesting post.  A friend at work recently bought some Gurkha heritage or something... and found the same type of thing in his cigar.  Looks like burlap or something.  I don't think he had the mold though.
Title: Re: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: Cigary on 01/05/2019 06:17 AM
My worry is the cigars I've smoked in the last 40 years where there was something I couldn't see and I smoked it anyway.
Title: RE: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: gitfiddl on 01/05/2019 09:04 AM
Several years ago, I remember there being some Jose l. Piedra cigars that had pieces of what appeared to be burlap threads in them.  When you think about it, it's kind of remarkable we don't find more issues like internal mold and stray substances than we do.  Makes you wonder what wev'e smoked that we don't know about.
Title: Re: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: klamm143 on 01/05/2019 06:17 PM
Looks nasty..............might be a e-bay market for it tho......lol.
Title: Re: Nasty surprise in my Viaje Circa 45
Post by: Vroomp on 01/08/2019 01:00 PM
Burlap and plastic are common in factories with little supervision as these items are used a lot and can get stuck on the back of the leaf sometimes where it goes unnoticed.............