The Hot Ash 10th Anniversary cigar are 100% Cuban born and are made with hand selected tobacco leaves. www.HotAshGirls.com They are hand-rolled in small batches with special attention to every details. The filler has the most veins, which in turn brings a more pleasant taste to the cigar. For the wrapper, we only use the outer portions of the leaves with the least amount of veins, this gives the cigar the finest texture and elasticity to compound the aroma desired by cigar afficanodos. Each cigar goes through a labor intensive seven-part process. After experiencing them you will also agree that it was well worth the efforts.
John - Thoses sound great! But how about posting some pictures of the girls?!? :shy:
just go to our web site or facebook page. we are in the process of shooting our 1st Hotash calander down the jersye shore, AC, Ocean City & Wild wood.
Wow. All your cigars rate 5 stars.
They R so Fing good try them I sell them as singles on my website with free shipping, then please rate them after you enjoy one with a good glass of port MMMMMMM! www.TheHouseofTobacco.com
Quotelowpro75 - 5/22/2010 8:21 AM
Wow. All your cigars rate 5 stars.
Shady!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
Quotescotti21 - 5/22/2010 8:37 AM
They R so Fing good try them I sell them as singles on my website with free shipping, then please rate them after you enjoy one with a good glass of port MMMMMMM! www.TheHouseofTobacco.com
Not to toot your own horn or anything... :confused:
I invited the gentleman to tell me what the dimensions of the cigars were, as that isn't mentioned at the website. I also askd him to check the entries for errors and told him he could join and tell us about the cigars. I'm very uncomfortable about his giving all his cigars 5 stars-talk about conflict of interest! What do you think Paul? I'll have to check my mail to see if he left me the numbers for the sizes.
Thank you sir, for stopping by, and you are welcome to stay as a regular member if you enjoy talking about cigars and life in general. We also have something called Geeks Critiques. Cigarmakers donate 5-7 identical cigars and we review them. We have one such review for Cain F on the front page right now. Would you like us to review your cigars? You have to be almost as confident of your cigars as you were when you gave them all 5 stars!
Quoteakira - 5/22/2010 11:40 AM
Quotelowpro75 - 5/22/2010 8:21 AM
Wow. All your cigars rate 5 stars.
Shady!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
Let's see if Paul considers them true unbiased reviews. As it stands, no other brand has such a high score in CG history.
I invite all of you all to stop by and try a free sample your next trip to Atlantic City Tropicana. I have a full selection in A Time 4 Wine located in The Quarter at the Tropicana, next to Cuba Libre . And yes Larry I did email you and thanked you for posting my cigars.
Quotelowpro75 - 5/22/2010 8:21 AM
Wow. All your cigars rate 5 stars.
Seems doubtful.
Plan a Trip to AC and Ill take you guys out on the town will smoke great HotAsh cigars with some Beautiful HotAsh Girls then you can write your own reviews.
QuoteDave S. - 5/22/2010 9:19 AM
Quotelowpro75 - 5/22/2010 8:21 AM
Wow. All your cigars rate 5 stars.
Seems doubtful.
On second thought . . . 10 sticks reviewed, and all rated 5 stars?
:shamebag: !!!
I suppose if I were rating all of "my cigars" I might rate them high as well and with that as consideration I accept it, BUT not to bother offering something about the blend or profile and to copy each one over... NOPE I need a review with more substance; I do hope to see some upcoming... :confused:
I'm curious what you mean by,
Quotescotti21 - 5/22/2010 7:31 AM
The Hot Ash 10th Anniversary cigar are 100% Cuban born
:confused:
Can you elaborate?
Quotescotti21 - 5/22/2010 9:31 AM
Plan a Trip to AC and Ill take you guys out on the town will smoke great HotAsh cigars with some Beautiful HotAsh Girls then you can write your own reviews.
The best way to get an unbiased, credible review on CigarGeeks os to sponsor one of the monthly Geek Reviews. Contact JunglePete through this site... I believe he coordinates with vendors.
Paul will clear this up and I suspect he will do so by clearing up some recent reviews. We had a similar issue with one-line reviews a year or two ago.
I imagine those 5-star ratings will quickly evaporate once exposed to the merciless glare of a full-blown Geek Critique!
QuoteAlphairon - 5/22/2010 2:21 PM
I imagine those 5-star ratings will quickly evaporate once exposed to the merciless glare of a full-blown Geek Critique!
I agree. I have trouble trusting a guy who (1) joined the site bragging on his cigars without the courtesy of an introducing himself as the rest of us have done; (2) uses the same, identical rating and identical review for all of his cigars; and (3) won't post the pictures of the hot ash girls. (Especially #3!) :shy:
I would be leary giving any information to him on his site. Possible :spammer:
Hope I am wrong!
QuoteBRLESQ - 5/22/2010 3:23 PM
QuoteAlphairon - 5/22/2010 2:21 PM
I imagine those 5-star ratings will quickly evaporate once exposed to the merciless glare of a full-blown Geek Critique!
I agree. I have trouble trusting a guy who (1) joined the site bragging on his cigars without the courtesy of an introducing himself as the rest of us have done; (2) uses the same, identical rating and identical review for all of his cigars; and (3) won't post the pictures of the hot ash girls. (Especially #3!) :shy:
I would be leary giving any information to him on his site. Possible :spammer: Hope I am wrong!
He is not a spammer. I invited him and cigar makers are allowed to plug their products. I'll admit he got a little carried away. He underestimated our seriousness as a group of sophisticated smokers, that's all. Maybe what he gave us is all he's capable of, copying and pasting the same unoriginal message everywhere. Or he's lazy, busy, or in a big hurry.[/QUOTE]
Helluva lot of piling on, don't you think? :shades: But why would I expect anything less from us geeks... :biggrin: We did run Jersey Joe around a bit...
Anyway, I agree with the thought that submitting a sample for a Geek's Critique is the best way to go. We're basically a bunch of honest cigar smokers who rate cigars without pretense. You can tout a cigar all you want. If it's good, we'll tell you. If it sucks, well, we'll tell you that as well.
I don't think that we are being to harsh. Putting all of your own cigars up with 5 star reviews one after another with identical verbiage is, in my opinion, disingenuous.
Asking for us to rate them would have been the right way to go. I have no problem with vendors and manufacturers. I am actually very happy when they visit our site, as their insight is often quite interesting and valuable. I am not, however, happy about a slew of two sets of identical five star reviews that read like someone's advertising copy.
QuoteJackal - 5/22/2010 1:01 PM
I don't think that we are being to harsh. Putting all of your own cigars up with 5 star reviews one after another with identical verbiage is, in my opinion, disingenuous.
Asking for us to rate them would have been the right way to go. I have no problem with vendors and manufacturers. I am actually very happy when they visit our site, as their insight is often quite interesting and valuable. I am not, however, happy about a slew of two sets of identical five star reviews that read like someone's advertising copy.
I'm inclined to agree with Jason about the reviews. I can find marketing BS easily. The database of reviews is the most valuable asset CG offers, and and these "reviews" impair it.
I'm willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt and assume he didn't realize how we work, but I would like those 5-star reviews removed and replaced with legitimate user reviews.
I'm sorry i stept away Im watching the Flyers Im a big hockey fan and a very serioius cigar Aficiando.. I think all my cigars kick ash that why I put my logo on my original blend in 1995 they are made with Nicaraguan long fillers are wrapped with a golden brown Nicaraguan wrapper leaf that makes them medium-bodied cigar very rich in flavor and a marvel to all your senses. Please feel free to order 1 or 100 shipping is on me.
Quoteljlemer - 5/22/2010 12:45 PM
. . . He underestimated our seriousness as a group of sophisticated smokers . . . .
[/QUOTE]
Serious . . . sophisticated . . . ?
I thought this was the Cigar Geeks website.
Hi Im John Scotti, Larry invited me. I live down near Atlantic City NJ, I opened the House of tobacco in 1995. Incorporated HOT Inc in 96 and trade marked the HotAsh Logo and HotAshGirls in 97. You can become a fan on my face book site The house of Tobacco and see some of our events with some of our HotAshGirls.
Quotescotti21 - 5/22/2010 1:22 PM
Hi Im John Scotti, Larry invited me. I live down near Atlantic City NJ, I opened the House of tobacco in 1995. Incorporated HOT Inc in 96 and trade marked the HotAsh Logo and HotAshGirls in 97. You can become a fan on my face book site The house of Tobacco and see some of our events with some of our HotAshGirls.
Hi John, welcome to CG!
Quotescotti21 - 5/22/2010 1:16 PM
. . . I'm . . . a very serioius cigar Aficiando . . . I think all my cigars kick ash . . . they are . . . very rich in flavor and a marvel to all your senses. Please feel free to order 1 or 100 shipping is on me.
This seems a bit much.
If you ever smoked a good cuban cigar and you smoke one of my 10th anniversary cigars you will then know what I mean by 100% cuban born. again shipping is free to anywhere in the usa on all HotAsh cigars. Flyers 1-0 Eh, as the Canadian would say
Hi Michael, Thank you! I hope a few of you take me up on my offer in AC or my free shipping offer so I can get some of your sophiscated serious cigar geeks reviews! Lets Go Flyers
What a day for Cordell to be occupied with his daughter's graduation!
Quotescotti21 - 5/22/2010 4:40 PM
Hi Michael, Thank you! I hope a few of you take me up on my offer in AC or my free shipping offer so I can get some of your sophiscated serious cigar geeks reviews! Lets Go Flyers
John, Booby, I reckon I've smoked my share of legitimate ISOMs. IMHO, it's more hype than anything. Are you saying that your cigars are made with pre-embargo tobacco, tobacco grown from Cuban seed, or what? Stop with the ambiguity.
And furthermore, who are you calling sophistawhatever? I'm sitting here barefoot, wearing a wifebeater and I haven't showered today! I'm even drinking a Natty Light! But there is a DPG Cuban Classic in the ashtray... :biggrin:
Ya know, taking on the Geeks is sorta like getting a root canal done without anesthesia. It can be done, but you probably won't survive the experience with all your senses intact. I know I would hate to try. :biggrin:
QuoteAlphairon - 5/22/2010 5:18 PM
Ya know, taking on the Geeks is sorta like getting a root canal done without anesthesia. It can be done, but you probably won't survive the experience with all your senses intact. I know I would hate to try. :biggrin:
:dancing: :dancing: :dancing: :biggrin:
I was responding to Dave S
Serious . . . sophisticated . . . ?
I thought this was the Cigar Geeks website.
But are you watching the Flyers smack around them Canuckys?
I cant let the seed out of the bag try 1 and then rate it yourself!
Quotescotti21 - 5/22/2010 5:56 PM
I was responding to Dave S
Serious . . . sophisticated . . . ?
I thought this was the Cigar Geeks website.
But are you watching the Flyers smack around them Canuckys?
I cant let the seed out of the bag try 1 and then rate it yourself!
Dude, I'm from the South. Ice is something I scrape from my windshield two or three mornings a year and pour my tea over at dinner. Skating involves decks and trucks...
Quotegitfiddl - 5/22/2010 1:58 PM
What a day for Cordell to be occupied with his daughter's graduation!
Wait 'til Bob gets back from partying with his hillbilly ex-in-laws and finds out that he's been accused of associating with "serious sophisticates" at Cigar Geeks.
It won't be pretty!!!
:mad:
Quoteljlemer - 5/22/2010 3:45 PM
QuoteBRLESQ - 5/22/2010 3:23 PM
Possible :spammer: Hope I am wrong!
He is not a spammer. I invited him and cigar makers are allowed to plug their products. I'll admit he got a little carried away. He underestimated our seriousness as a group of sophisticated smokers, that's all. Maybe what he gave us is all he's capable of, copying and pasting the same unoriginal message everywhere. Or he's lazy, busy, or in a big hurry.
[/QUOTE]
Larry - I said "possible spammer, and I hope I am wrong". So now we know you invited him and he is not a spammer. However, you and others openly invited him to donate 5-7 identical cigars for a Geeks Critiques, and he has continually refused by instead continuing to tell us all to buy one from his site, or come to Atlantic City. Really? I'm on the next flight! I think its great to have cigar makers plug their products...that's how we can find out about new stuff. This one just isn't passing the litmus test so far.
But he did finally introduce himself, and he does have a lot of BS, so if he stays around he'll fit in around here just fine... ;-)
Welcome, John. We have different forums and conversation threads on lots of topics. There is a recnt one on the hockey games and the Flyers. Feel free to browse around a bit and find out what we are all about. :-)
Quotegitfiddl - 5/22/2010 4:58 PM
What a day for Cordell to be occupied with his daughter's graduation!
What we should all be asking ourselves is WWBD? :lmao:
QuoteBRLESQ - 5/22/2010 4:13 PM
Quotegitfiddl - 5/22/2010 4:58 PM
What a day for Cordell to be occupied with his daughter's graduation!
What we should all be asking ourselves is WWBD? :lmao:
WWBD?
Why We Buy Dogrockets? :confused:
QuoteBRLESQ - 5/22/2010 7:13 PM
Quotegitfiddl - 5/22/2010 4:58 PM
What a day for Cordell to be occupied with his daughter's graduation!
What we should all be asking ourselves is WWBD? :lmao:
I reckon he might pitch a hissy which would make your average trailer trash neighborhood brawl look like a tea party.
QuoteAlphairon - 5/22/2010 8:56 PM
QuoteBRLESQ - 5/22/2010 7:13 PM
Quotegitfiddl - 5/22/2010 4:58 PM
What a day for Cordell to be occupied with his daughter's graduation!
What we should all be asking ourselves is WWBD? :lmao:
I reckon he might pitch a hissy which would make your average trailer trash neighborhood brawl look like a tea party.
Watch it with the Tea Party talk... We don't want this thread to get political...
Quotegitfiddl - 5/22/2010 9:02 PM
QuoteAlphairon - 5/22/2010 8:56 PM
QuoteBRLESQ - 5/22/2010 7:13 PM
Quotegitfiddl - 5/22/2010 4:58 PM
What a day for Cordell to be occupied with his daughter's graduation!
What we should all be asking ourselves is WWBD? :lmao:
I reckon he might pitch a hissy which would make your average trailer trash neighborhood brawl look like a tea party.
Watch it with the Tea Party talk... We don't want this thread to get political...
Small "t" type tea party only! You know the one with the fancy cups and the strumpets. :biggrin:
Tea Party, Schmea Party. I think Bob should run under the Beer Party.
I heard this on NPR :shy:
"Remember the MTV campaign to get young people to the polls called "Rock the Vote"? Norris is the honorary chairman of a new NRA ad campaign called 'Trigger the Vote.' "
The Beer Party could sponsor a "Pull The Tab On The Vote" campaign.
QuoteJackal - 5/22/2010 4:01 PM
I don't think that we are being to harsh. Putting all of your own cigars up with 5 star reviews one after another with identical verbiage is, in my opinion, disingenuous.
Asking for us to rate them would have been the right way to go. I have no problem with vendors and manufacturers. I am actually very happy when they visit our site, as their insight is often quite interesting and valuable. I am not, however, happy about a slew of two sets of identical five star reviews that read like someone's advertising copy.
Exactly!
nwb
Quoteljlemer - 5/22/2010 8:59 AM
We also have something called Geeks Critiques. Cigarmakers donate 5-7 identical cigars and we review them. We have one such review for Cain F on the front page right now. Would you like us to review your cigars? You have to be almost as confident of your cigars as you were when you gave them all 5 stars!
What do you think, John?
Hey John!!
With all due respect to another Geek, rating your own cigars as all 5's is a crock of shyt!! It prostitutes the entire process is nothing but spam. You want to blow your own horn about your cigars, get a blog! Don't use this forum as your own personal promotion tool. Welcome to CG's but cut us a little slack here John and give us some credit for having a bit of sophistication!! :shooter:
A donation of 5 cigars is nothing to a cigar company. Anyone with any faith in their product would want it in the hands of the consumer to try. Reps are constantly handing out free sticks to promote their line at Burning Leaf and I had no problem getting cigar companies to donate cigars for Geek Reviews. Pete at Alacranes sent out a bunch on his own accord and has rewarded him handsomely. To me this is a bunch of self-promoting with no confidence in the product if he can't offer up a few for a unbiased review. Just my 2 cents.
Quotepodman28 - 5/22/2010 10:15 PM
A donation of 5 cigars is nothing to a cigar company. Anyone with any faith in their product would want it in the hands of the consumer to try. Reps are constantly handing out free sticks to promote their line at Burning Leaf and I had no problem getting cigar companies to donate cigars for Geek Reviews. Pete at Alacranes sent out a bunch on his own accord and has rewarded him handsomely. To me this is a bunch of self-promoting with no confidence in the product if he can't offer up a few for a unbiased review. Just my 2 cents.
Make that four cents.
Quotepodman28 - 5/22/2010 10:15 PM
A donation of 5 cigars is nothing to a cigar company. Anyone with any faith in their product would want it in the hands of the consumer to try. Reps are constantly handing out free sticks to promote their line at Burning Leaf and I had no problem getting cigar companies to donate cigars for Geek Reviews. Pete at Alacranes sent out a bunch on his own accord and has rewarded him handsomely. To me this is a bunch of self-promoting with no confidence in the product if he can't offer up a few for a unbiased review. Just my 2 cents.
:word:
Quotemountedshriner - 5/22/2010 7:07 PM
Hey John!!
With all due respect to another Geek, rating your own cigars as all 5's is a crock of shyt!! It prostitutes the entire process is nothing but spam. You want to blow your own horn about your cigars, get a blog! Don't use this forum as your own personal promotion tool. Welcome to CG's but cut us a little slack here John and give us some credit for having a bit of sophistication!! :shooter:
Hang on, guys. There are two things going on here.
1. John posted this particular thread in "Hot Deals" which I think is fine & dandy.
2. He posted 5-star reviews for his own cigars, which loses credibility for him.
I'd like to see him sponsor a Geek Critique and let's see just how good these cigars are.
I've not been contacted yet regarding any sponsorship for the Geek Critique. Man, I go out to work for the day and come back to a mess here. I don't feel good about those kind of reviews, I'm inclined to think Paul won't either, but I could be wrong. I have half a mind to yank them right now, but I'll wait a bit and try to reach Paul first.
Those are not reviews, they are a sales pitch! It all seems very inappropriate to me.
:mad:
Quotejunglepete - 5/22/2010 8:21 PM
I've not been contacted yet regarding any sponsorship for the Geek Critique. Man, I go out to work for the day and come back to a mess here. I don't feel good about those kind of reviews, I'm inclined to think Paul won't either, but I could be wrong. I have half a mind to yank them right now, but I'll wait a bit and try to reach Paul first.
:mad:
The reviews have no integrity and should come down, IMHO. But I would like to see these cigars reviewed in an objective way.
I am saving one of each of the duplicate reviews here. I may be overstepping my boundaries but I am yanking them now. I will apologize in advance if I am not doing the right thing to all those involved.
John, please send me PM if you would like us to review your cigars in our Geek Critique forum.
The Original Hot Ash Blend comes from Nicaragua. The story of Nicaraguan cigars is a dramatic one, spiked with crises but crowned by the achievements and endurance of its people. Today some of the best cigars in the world are coming from Nicaraguan fields like The Hot Ash Originals are 100% choice Nicaraguan long filler tobacco. It is surprisingly full-bodied, with a crack of pepper transitioning to woody essences.
The Hot Ash 10th Anniversary cigar are 100% Cuban born and are made with hand selected tobacco leaves. They are hand-rolled in small batches with special attention to every details. The filler has the most veins, which in turn brings a more pleasant taste to the cigar. For the wrapper, we only use the outer portions of the leaves with the least amount of veins, this gives the cigar the finest texture and elasticity to compound the aroma desired by cigar afficanodos. Each cigar goes through a labor intensive seven-part process. After experiencing them you will also agree that it was well worth the efforts.
Thanks Pete, I think you handled it appropriately.
Good Morning geeks, Last night was a Saturday and Johnny boy was out on the town with some Beautiful HotAsh Girls. You guys are funny, Larry invites me into the geeks, I rate my cigars what I feel they deserve a 5 and you don't like my scores LOL! :lmao: :lmao: I will send you 10 of my original Churchill only please post the address that you would like me to send them to. If you would like to rate any others please feel free to purchase them online @ www.CubanDiscountCigars.com. www.TheHouseoftobacco.com or www.HotAshGirls.com. Today is HotAsh Race day with my daughter @ the NJMP I'm out all day. Have a great Day to ALL!!!
Hey John, I ordered a couple singles to give them a try. One of the 10th Anniv toros and a regular robusto. Looking forward to trying them.
Quotegitfiddl - 5/22/2010 5:11 PM
wearing a wifebeater and I haven't showered today!
What's a wearable wifebeater? I didn't shower yesterday either. Might today. Might.
Quoteljlemer - 5/23/2010 10:05 AM
Quotegitfiddl - 5/22/2010 5:11 PM
wearing a wifebeater and I haven't showered today!
What's a wearable wifebeater? I didn't shower yesterday either. Might today. Might.
White ribbed tanktop undershirt. I'm gonna have to shower today. AC went out last night... :-(
Quotepodman28 - 5/22/2010 10:15 PM
Pete at Alacranes sent out a bunch on his own accord and has rewarded him handsomely.
He was awarded with great reviews, and deservedly so, but I don't believe he was rewarded with a significant increase in sales, unfortunately.
Hey guys. Sorry I was out all yesterday and just catching up here now.
First, I moved this thread into the Commercial Retailers forum as that is really where it belongs.
Second, I agree the reviews need to come down. Reviews should come from independent reviewers. I did a search and couldn't find them so i'm assuming Pete got them all. If not, let me know.
Lastly, I think it is a great idea to do a Geeks Critique reviews of these. What do you think John? Basically you can send me a group of identical cigars (typically 5) and i'll get them out to reviewers who will post independent detailed reviews without being able to see each other's reviews. Once all are in we release them. You'll get credit and links to your site in each review. Let me or Pete know if you are interested or have any questions.
Thanks,
-Paul
Quotejunglepete - 5/22/2010 11:33 PM
I am saving one of each of the duplicate reviews here. I may be overstepping my boundaries but I am yanking them now. I will apologize in advance if I am not doing the right thing to all those involved.
Keeping duplicate reviews of duplicate reviews! They're all duplicates to begin with! It's unanimous that these are ads and not reviews. The guy is new to the site and can't be blamed for not knowing our ways, though. He just offered 10 Churchills! He's learned our ways! This will be a big Geek Critique! I volunteer!
Quotelowpro75 - 5/23/2010 10:01 AM
Hey John, I ordered a couple singles to give them a try. One of the 10th Anniv toros and a regular robusto. Looking forward to trying them.
I guess you won't be needing one of his freebies.
I just saw that he offered 10 Churchills. Very generous!
John, i'll PM you the address you can send them to.
Pete, what do you think? Seems like we do an out of turn / overlapping Critique?
Thanks!
-Paul
Quoteljlemer - 5/23/2010 10:16 AM
Quotelowpro75 - 5/23/2010 10:01 AM
Hey John, I ordered a couple singles to give them a try. One of the 10th Anniv toros and a regular robusto. Looking forward to trying them.
I guess you won't be needing one of his freebies.
No, I wanted to spend my own money on this one so I don't feel any obligation to hold back. I hope they are as good as advertised.
QuoteSenorPablo - 5/23/2010 10:13 AM
Hey guys. Sorry I was out all yesterday and just catching up here now.
First, I moved this thread into the Commercial Retailers forum as that is really where it belongs.
Second, I agree the reviews need to come down. Reviews should come from independent reviewers. I did a search and couldn't find them so i'm assuming Pete got them all. If not, let me know.
Lastly, I think it is a great idea to do a Geeks Critique reviews of these. What do you think John? Basically you can send me a group of identical cigars (typically 5) and i'll get them out to reviewers who will post independent detailed reviews without being able to see each other's reviews. Once all are in we release them. You'll get credit and links to your site in each review. Let me or Pete know if you are interested or have any questions.
Thanks,
-Paul
He's committed to ten! Don't discourage him! Oops! I see you've dealt with this.
Everything looks like it has been taken care of. Yes, I got all the reviews taken down and it seems that John is willing to sponsor a Geek Critique.
John, feel free to PM (private message) Paul (senorpablo) or me Pete (junglepete) and we will send you the address as to where to send the cigars. Thanks for your generous sponsorship and we look forward to trying your cigars.
QuoteSenorPablo - 5/23/2010 10:19 AM
I just saw that he offered 10 Churchills. Very generous!
John, i'll PM you the address you can send them to.
Pete, what do you think? Seems like we do an out of turn / overlapping Critique?
Thanks!
-Paul
I am sure we can fit it in. :biggrin:
I have to give him credit. He's stuck around. I'll give him a A for perseverance.
Quotegitfiddl - 5/23/2010 11:12 AM
I have to give him credit. He's stuck around. I'll give him a A for perseverance.
With all the hype and hot ashes in my face I'm dying to try this cigar out :biggrin:
A thought: we keep referring to John's submissions as "reviews."
The awarding of five stars to 10 out of 10 products notwithstanding, the verbiage John submitted did not constitute reviews. In place of reviews, we got marketing pieces.
There's a difference between an objective assessment (a review) and a piece of marketing material, and John's submissions blatantly crossed over that line.
Pete didn't remove reviews from the database; he removed marketing material.
QuoteSenorPablo - 5/23/2010 7:13 AM
Hey guys. Sorry I was out all yesterday and just catching up here now.
First, I moved this thread into the Commercial Retailers forum as that is really where it belongs.
Second, I agree the reviews need to come down. Reviews should come from independent reviewers. I did a search and couldn't find them so i'm assuming Pete got them all. If not, let me know.
Lastly, I think it is a great idea to do a Geeks Critique reviews of these. What do you think John? Basically you can send me a group of identical cigars (typically 5) and i'll get them out to reviewers who will post independent detailed reviews without being able to see each other's reviews. Once all are in we release them. You'll get credit and links to your site in each review. Let me or Pete know if you are interested or have any questions.
Thanks,
-Paul
I'd be glad to participate in the Geek Critique of these.
Guys new here. Smoke 4 a day. Needless to say other than golf, cigars are a passion of mine. I am not defending nor condoning anyone or any company, I want to make that clear. Personally, I think a company who sells a product, should be proud of it, brag about it, or get rid of it. I was introduced to HotAsh cigars at a golf outting. They had a tent, a Red race car, gorgeous girls with Hot Ash attire. Needless to say the tent was a huge eye catcher. The girls were selling the cigars and even if you didnt smoke them, How could u say NO. I purchased two of the Hot Ash logoed cigars and was very pelasantly surprised...Smooth, nice slow burn, great ash. Very enjoyable, I have been smoking them ever since. 5 stars??? Well I guess the stars are in the eyes of the beholder. VERY good cigar, I will go with that. Again a matter of taste. The site in the forum is also very enjoyable, some pictures to liven it up. I don't mind a bragger of something he or she is proud of, nor an entertaining picture. I find it a plus to the site. Than again, thats me. I am enjoying the site tremendously, love all the comments, critiques, etc.
Guys new here. Smoke 4 a day. Needless to say other than golf, cigars are a passion of mine. I am not defending nor condoning anyone or any company, I want to make that clear. Personally, I think a company who sells a product, should be proud of it, brag about it, or get rid of it. I was introduced to HotAsh cigars at a golf outting. They had a tent, a Red race car, gorgeous girls with Hot Ash attire. Needless to say the tent was a huge eye catcher. The girls were selling the cigars and even if you didnt smoke them, How could u say NO. I purchased two of the Hot Ash logoed cigars and was very pelasantly surprised...Smooth, nice slow burn, great ash. Very enjoyable, I have been smoking them ever since. 5 stars??? Well I guess the stars are in the eyes of the beholder. VERY good cigar, I will go with that. Again a matter of taste. The site in the forum is also very enjoyable, some pictures to liven it up. I don't mind a bragger of something he or she is proud of, nor an entertaining picture. I find it a plus to the site. Than again, thats me. I am enjoying the site tremendously, love all the comments, critiques, etc.
Welcome to the site, Vince! I agree with you on most of your points - however, we have a forum designated for that marketing and commercial retailers. The problem is submitting reviews that aren't actually reviews - it was simply cut and paste ad literature. Now that this has been addressed, it will be interesting to see what people think of them in a Geek Critique.
If you need another volunteer, Pete, let me know :biggrin:
nwb
QuoteLongo - 5/23/2010 12:16 PM
Guys new here. Smoke 4 a day. Needless to say other than golf, cigars are a passion of mine. I am not defending nor condoning anyone or any company, I want to make that clear. Personally, I think a company who sells a product, should be proud of it, brag about it, or get rid of it. I was introduced to HotAsh cigars at a golf outting. They had a tent, a Red race car, gorgeous girls with Hot Ash attire. Needless to say the tent was a huge eye catcher. The girls were selling the cigars and even if you didnt smoke them, How could u say NO. I purchased two of the Hot Ash logoed cigars and was very pelasantly surprised...Smooth, nice slow burn, great ash. Very enjoyable, I have been smoking them ever since. 5 stars??? Well I guess the stars are in the eyes of the beholder. VERY good cigar, I will go with that. Again a matter of taste. The site in the forum is also very enjoyable, some pictures to liven it up. I don't mind a bragger of something he or she is proud of, nor an entertaining picture. I find it a plus to the site. Than again, thats me. I am enjoying the site tremendously, love all the comments, critiques, etc.
Sorry to sound totally unconvinced, but this is someone for the company also. Im sorry if I sound like an a-hole and accusatory, but it looks pretty obvious.... a guy comes on and copy and pastes the same review over and over and touts his cigars with pre-made one-liners copy and pasted then "magically" a new member signs up to talk about this company again.
I call BS. There, I said it. BS.
Send me one of these sticks, Id be glad to try it and critique it.
QuoteMiaFLSurf - 5/23/2010 10:22 AM
Sorry to sound totally unconvinced, but this is someone for the company also . . . it looks pretty obvious . . . a guy comes on and copy and pastes the same review over and over and touts his cigars . . . then "magically" a new member signs up to talk about this company again.
I call BS. There, I said it. BS . . . .
:word: !!!
QuoteDave S. - 5/23/2010 10:33 AM
QuoteMiaFLSurf - 5/23/2010 10:22 AM
Sorry to sound totally unconvinced, but this is someone for the company also . . . it looks pretty obvious . . . a guy comes on and copy and pastes the same review over and over and touts his cigars . . . then "magically" a new member signs up to talk about this company again.
I call BS. There, I said it. BS . . . .
:word: !!!
:confused:
Hi Guys writing from my blackberry. Just an FYI I sent out an email to a few of my over 4000 customers to logon and rate my hotash cigars so hopefully I will help grow your site with some new cigar friendly customers. I am running a special please feel free to log onto my web site and sign on for Gifts for Dads & Grads 30% Off - Sale Ends Soon. HotAsh pole [position #2 Cheer us on. Thanks John Scotti
Jesus. If this site gets flooded with tons of this guys "cronies" to spam it with bulls**t reviews and posts stating that its "their #1 place to buy cigars" when they are just passing by the site... I may have to take a trip up from Philly to AC and poop in the stoor.
Yes. Poop in the store.
QuoteMiaFLSurf - 5/23/2010 1:55 PM
Jesus. If this site gets flooded with tons of this guys "cronies" to spam it with bulls**t reviews and posts stating that its "their #1 place to buy cigars" when they are just passing by the site... I may have to take a trip up from Philly to AC and poop in the stoor.
Yes. Poop in the store.
I'm not trying to defend this guy - far from it. However, let's not make this site an unfriendly one. That is why I like it so much.
nwb
Patience, grasshoppers, patience. This will fade like mist in the morning.
:biggrin:
I got my hotash cigars today, they look pretty good, well filled and tightly rolled. I am tempted to smoke one tonight.
QuoteAlphairon - 5/23/2010 2:24 PM
Patience, grasshoppers, patience. This will fade like mist in the morning.
:biggrin:
When you can snatch the pebble from my hand, you will be ready. Now go! I have geisha girls to contend with... :biggrin:
Quotelowpro75 - 5/25/2010 8:03 PM
I got my hotash cigars today, they look pretty good, well filled and tightly rolled. I am tempted to smoke one tonight.
Looking forward to a review!
nwb
Groovy, let us know how they are...