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Non-Cigar Related => How's life? => Topic started by: headfirst on 11/14/2019 12:33 PM

Title: School shooting
Post by: headfirst on 11/14/2019 12:33 PM
It finally hit my neighborhood, 7 people shot, 2 in critical condition.  The school is about 2 miles from my house.  Shooter is in custody, 15-16 year old kid.  Thankful my kids attend a different school slightly closer.  Thankful for law enforcement and vigilant school safety practices that kept this from being any worse.  Praying for the critically injured and for the shooter to come to grips with what he has done.  I don't understand what makes a kid, or anyone, do something like this.

 :sad:
Title: RE: School shooting
Post by: appollo on 11/14/2019 01:15 PM
Glad to here your family is safe.It blows my mind what these kids must be thinking.
Title: RE: School shooting
Post by: Beegerply on 11/14/2019 03:03 PM
Also glad your kids are fine, it must be hard as parent worrying about things like that today. I could go on a big rant about todays kids and what I feel is there problems but for know I'll leave it as is. Prayers to all the young kids and their family's at this time.  :-(
Title: Re: School shooting
Post by: headfirst on 11/14/2019 03:26 PM
I hear you Byron, I didn't say everything I could either as it could easily stir the pot too much.  Just a sad reality of the times.
Title: RE: School shooting
Post by: Beegerply on 11/14/2019 04:03 PM
Lets stir the pot lol :biggrin:
Title: Re: School shooting
Post by: MacMac on 11/14/2019 04:28 PM
It is a very sad, sad thing to hear about.
Title: Re: School shooting
Post by: Chefjohn on 11/14/2019 04:37 PM
That's horrible. We'll certainly keep those families in our prayers.
Title: Re: School shooting
Post by: ntanner on 11/14/2019 10:26 PM
The pot needs a good stir but everyone is afraid to do it cause we might offend somebody. Well I am offended that this crap is a concern for our kids today and I am offended that our kids have become what they are cause their parents didn't invest the time in them needed to prepare them for the world. I am offended that this great nation has turned into a nation of whining little bitches and until we get serious about it and quit sweeping it under the rug then we are going to continue to see these stories in the news.

     Sorry for the rant. I am glad your family is safe and my heart goes out to those who were affected by this horrible act of violence.
Title: Re: School shooting
Post by: Beegerply on 11/15/2019 07:06 AM
Quotentanner - 11/15/2019  1:26 AM

The pot needs a good stir but everyone is afraid to do it cause we might offend somebody. Well I am offended that this crap is a concern for our kids today and I am offended that our kids have become what they are cause their parents didn't invest the time in them needed to prepare them for the world. I am offended that this great nation has turned into a nation of whining little bitches and until we get serious about it and quit sweeping it under the rug then we are going to continue to see these stories in the news.

     Sorry for the rant. I am glad your family is safe and my heart goes out to those who were affected by this horrible act of violence.

I agree kids today have no values, respect, or morels because of todays snowflake, marshmallow, world.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: School shooting
Post by: headfirst on 11/15/2019 09:05 AM
Quotentanner - 11/14/2019  11:26 PM

The pot needs a good stir but everyone is afraid to do it cause we might offend somebody. Well I am offended that this crap is a concern for our kids today and I am offended that our kids have become what they are cause their parents didn't invest the time in them needed to prepare them for the world. I am offended that this great nation has turned into a nation of whining little bitches and until we get serious about it and quit sweeping it under the rug then we are going to continue to see these stories in the news.

     Sorry for the rant. I am glad your family is safe and my heart goes out to those who were affected by this horrible act of violence.

Yup.
Title: Re: School shooting
Post by: nirab on 11/16/2019 01:18 PM
It's easy to label this as whining little kids, and folks who do not parent well. For me, I see it as much deeper than that. Mental health, and those who need assistance, find it both hard to seek help, and avoid the stigma that some place on them. There is nothing wrong with asking for help, but when others see you as weak minded, and speak in terms that do not apply to the real issue, the issue manifests itself. It's hard to put yourself in the shoes of someone who has mental health issues, as a matter of fact, it is impossible. Compassion is lacking, and tolerance is minimal these days. Being kind is not a challenge, it is a choice. There is no way to happiness...happiness is the way...

Before judging our fellow human beings who struggle, consider the fact that it cannot be understood with the knowledge we possess...inform yourself, practice love, compassion and tolerance in daily life...we are all in this together...

Lastly...the one common denominator in most of these shootings...young, white males...why is that?

enjoy today, my brothers and sisters...this is it... :angel:
Title: Re: School shooting
Post by: Adwinistrator on 11/16/2019 01:36 PM
Quotenirab - 11/16/2019  2:18 PM

It's easy to label this as whining little kids, and folks who do not parent well. For me, I see it as much deeper than that. Mental health, and those who need assistance, find it both hard to seek help, and avoid the stigma that some place on them. There is nothing wrong with asking for help, but when others see you as weak minded, and speak in terms that do not apply to the real issue, the issue manifests itself. It's hard to put yourself in the shoes of someone who has mental health issues, as a matter of fact, it is impossible. Compassion is lacking, and tolerance is minimal these days. Being kind is not a challenge, it is a choice. There is no way to happiness...happiness is the way...

Before judging our fellow human beings who struggle, consider the fact that it cannot be understood with the knowledge we possess...inform yourself, practice love, compassion and tolerance in daily life...we are all in this together...

Lastly...the one common denominator in most of these shootings...young, white males...why is that?

enjoy today, my brothers and sisters...this is it... :angel:

Thanks for this thoughtful post.  This is an easy issue to paint as black/white, but it doesn't have one simple cause, this is much more complex than that.

And for everyone who wants to say "kids these days", between January 1969 and April 1970, there were approximately 8,200 Bombings, attempted bombings and bomb threats...  Different situation, different causes, different factors, but let's not pretend everything was so peaceful until this generation.
Title: Re: School shooting
Post by: ntanner on 11/16/2019 11:37 PM
Not saying it's kids these days and I am also not quite feeling my brothers compassion either. The kid's today are just a symptom of what my generation has created. I don't blame today's world on the kids. They haven't made their bed yet but us folks in our 40s and 50s, well we are reaping what we sowed. We created this pile of crap and now it's time to roll up our sleeves and start figuring out how we can fix it. Unfortunately that's going to be very difficult but we have to be willing to pay the price and do it or it's going to continue to decay. Maybe armed guards to patrol the schools. Not what I want, to make our schools feel more like a prison then they already do but the safety of my children out weighs my dislike of such drastic measures.  Who has the perfect answer? I know I don't but I feel like my crappy idea would be a better way to deal with it then what we are currently doing.