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Title: HELP! IT Support - Networking
Post by: shakinghorizons on 11/09/2020 10:16 AM
Pulling my hair out as this should not be so difficult!

I was attempting to install a Linksys WRT3200ACM at a friends house this weekend and failed miserably. FWIW they have TDS as an ISP. They only have one access point in their house and it is ran directly from the road in to their house via coaxial cable. They are renting a modem from TDS currently and everything is working fine. The WRT3200ACM does not have the capability to accept coaxial, so a coaxial to ethernet adapter was purchased - https://www.amazon.com/Female-Coaxial-Coupler-Adapter-Connector/dp/B07RSJFYGP/ref=asc_df_B07RSJFYGP/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=366289984963&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6650234266754782996&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9028883&hvtargid=pla-814028298478&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=74356900777&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=366289984963&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6650234266754782996&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9028883&hvtargid=pla-814028298478
Plugged everything in and there is no traffic across the modem (logged in to the modem to confirm). Next, purchased a MoCA adapter - https://www.amazon.com/goCoax-Adapter-2-5Gbps-Ethernet-WF-803M/dp/B07XYDG7WN/ref=sr_1_3?crid=T5JP3ZNWBKC9&dchild=1&keywords=moca+adapter&qid=1604935726&sprefix=moca+%2Cindustrial%2C177&sr=8-3 and after logging in to the MoCA adapter, there was no traffic.

I proceeded to unplug all of the new items and hooked up the rented modem and it fired right now and showed traffic. I am at a complete loss and cannot figure out for the life of me what is going on.

Assistance please!!!!
Title: RE: HELP! IT Support - Networking
Post by: Deener27 on 11/09/2020 10:49 AM
Sounds like a job for super DRuff
Title: RE: HELP! IT Support - Networking
Post by: Beegerply on 11/09/2020 03:23 PM
this what it sounded like to me when you explained it

lhihttps://www.pgatour.com/video/2010/12/06/funny-golf-tip-from-j-c--anderson.html  :biggrin:
Title: Re: HELP! IT Support - Networking
Post by: arrow34 on 11/09/2020 06:06 PM
Just a question, did you call the cable company and register the new  modems mac?  Otherwise it cannot be provisioned and it will not work.
Title: Re: HELP! IT Support - Networking
Post by: arrow34 on 11/09/2020 07:20 PM
I just reread what you wrote and it sounds like you unhooked the cable modem? And tried to do.just coax to ethernet adapter? You have to have a cable modem to ethernet. Is there a reason you took the cable modem out of the equation?   Why didn't you just take the ethernet and plug it into the linksys?
Title: Re: HELP! IT Support - Networking
Post by: rstrawsb on 11/09/2020 08:37 PM

What is the model of cable modem they are using? There should be an RG45 Ethernet cable that is currently running to the computer or switch from the cable modem. The WRT3200ACM has one internet port that should be connected to the cable modem ethernet output. That should be about all that is needed but if not then you would need to get to the WRT3200ACM admin console to do some settings. This is usually accessible via a web browser or phone app with the linksys products. Open a browser to 192.168.1.1 and login with username admin and password admin. If you get to this point and need more assistance let me know.

 Okay I'm editing my post I looked up the modem and instruction https://hellotds.com/support/internet/modem-self-install-tds-provided-modem.html. They has 4 ethernet ports on the back of the cable modem. Just connect one of those to the internet port on the WRT3200ACM. That should be about all you need to do but if not you can assess the cable modem configuration on 192.168.0.1.

Good Luck,

Ron

Title: Re: HELP! IT Support - Networking
Post by: arrow34 on 11/09/2020 08:52 PM
Quoterstrawsb - 11/9/2020  9:37 PM

What is the model of cable modem they are using? There should be an RG45 Ethernet cable that is currently running to the computer or switch from the cable modem. The WRT3200ACM has one internet port that should be connected to the cable modem ethernet output. That should be about all that is needed but if not then you would need to get to the WRT3200ACM admin console to do some settings. This is usually accessible via a web browser or phone app with the linksys products. Open a browser to 192.168.1.1 and login with username admin and password admin. If you get to this point and need more assistance let me know.

 Okay I'm editing my post I looked up the modem and instruction https://hellotds.com/support/internet/modem-self-install-tds-provided-modem.html. They has 4 ethernet ports on the back of the cable modem. Just connect one of those to the internet port on the WRT3200ACM. That should be about all you need to do but if not you can assess the cable modem configuration on 192.168.0.1.

Good Luck,

Ron


Yeah thas what i was going to say next and why i asked why he was taking the modem out of the loop.  Maybe to stop renting?  Then they could get a cheaper cable modem from bestbuy, just as long as it support docsis 3.0 or 3.1
Title: Re: HELP! IT Support - Networking
Post by: shakinghorizons on 11/10/2020 08:24 AM
Quotearrow34 - 11/9/2020  5:06 PM

Just a question, did you call the cable company and register the new  modems mac?  Otherwise it cannot be provisioned and it will not work.

Typically I see traffic and then I call - I was just shocked to not see anything at all, even through the MoCA.

Quotearrow34 - 11/9/2020  6:20 PM

I just reread what you wrote and it sounds like you unhooked the cable modem? And tried to do.just coax to ethernet adapter? You have to have a cable modem to ethernet. Is there a reason you took the cable modem out of the equation?   Why didn't you just take the ethernet and plug it into the linksys?

The cable modem was taken out of the equation to stop rent. There is no ethernet plug on the cable modem - just a coaxial input and nothing out.
Title: Re: HELP! IT Support - Networking
Post by: shakinghorizons on 11/10/2020 08:27 AM
Quoterstrawsb - 11/9/2020  7:37 PM

What is the model of cable modem they are using? There should be an RG45 Ethernet cable that is currently running to the computer or switch from the cable modem. The WRT3200ACM has one internet port that should be connected to the cable modem ethernet output. That should be about all that is needed but if not then you would need to get to the WRT3200ACM admin console to do some settings. This is usually accessible via a web browser or phone app with the linksys products. Open a browser to 192.168.1.1 and login with username admin and password admin. If you get to this point and need more assistance let me know.

 Okay I'm editing my post I looked up the modem and instruction https://hellotds.com/support/internet/modem-self-install-tds-provided-modem.html. They has 4 ethernet ports on the back of the cable modem. Just connect one of those to the internet port on the WRT3200ACM. That should be about all you need to do but if not you can assess the cable modem configuration on 192.168.0.1.

Good Luck,

Ron


I will get the model of the cable modem tonight, but there is no ethernet port on it - simply just a coaxial input and power.

I have configured the WRT3200ACM to everything they have asked for, but I currently have no way for them to have internet access through the new modem.
Title: Re: HELP! IT Support - Networking
Post by: nirab on 11/10/2020 04:28 PM
unplug it, wait 10 seconds, and then plug it back in... :angel:  :biggrin:  :shades:  :lmao:
Title: Re: HELP! IT Support - Networking
Post by: arrow34 on 11/10/2020 05:45 PM
Quoteshakinghorizons - 11/10/2020  9:24 AM

Quotearrow34 - 11/9/2020  5:06 PM

Just a question, did you call the cable company and register the new  modems mac?  Otherwise it cannot be provisioned and it will not work.

Typically I see traffic and then I call - I was just shocked to not see anything at all, even through the MoCA.

Quotearrow34 - 11/9/2020  6:20 PM

I just reread what you wrote and it sounds like you unhooked the cable modem? And tried to do.just coax to ethernet adapter? You have to have a cable modem to ethernet. Is there a reason you took the cable modem out of the equation?   Why didn't you just take the ethernet and plug it into the linksys?

The cable modem was taken out of the equation to stop rent. There is no ethernet plug on the cable modem - just a coaxial input and nothing out.

ok, so the cable modem from the cable company doesnt have an Ethernet port and just does wifi from what you are describing?  Ok, so to stop paying rent, you will have to get a replacement cable modem.  TDS requires as does other internet companies a cable modem.  https://blog.hellotds.com/modem/  

Once you have that, you have to call and have it provisioned by TDS(which usually just requires a mac address).  Plus the Ethernet cable from the back of the modem in to the linksys.  The goCoax MoCA Adapter is only for sending internet over coax from adapter to adapter.  I am pretty sure that isnt how TDS internet operates.
Title: Re: HELP! IT Support - Networking
Post by: rstrawsb on 11/10/2020 09:01 PM

I see, why would they manufacture a cable modem without an Ethernet port. I guess I just like wires. So you can get something like this ARRIS  (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/arris-surfboard-32-x-8-docsis-3-0-cable-modem-white/4600801.p?skuId=4600801&ref=212&loc=1&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1268652&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3NyAy7757AIVRtyGCh2Q1QX_EAQYAiABEgKizPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)then return the rental.  I have one of these and it works well. I didn't check if the provider will allow it or not. 

-Ron

Title: Re: HELP! IT Support - Networking
Post by: DRuff on 11/13/2020 11:11 PM
I need to know the model number and manufacturer of the cable modem. Never heard of one without an ethernet port.