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Title: Cigar burn question
Post by: MurphMan7700 on 04/15/2021 12:59 PM
Hello everyone. Once in a while I have a cigar that the cherry turns to an almost charcoal condition. I have two tupperdores and a 400 count temp controlled humidor. 65 RH Boveda packs for humidity. It is not with one particular brand or blend. Is this an issue of smoking to fast, improper lighting, ??. Any input would help, thank you.
Title: RE: Cigar burn question
Post by: gitfiddl on 04/15/2021 03:57 PM
I've had that happen several times over the years, once in the last week or so.  I've never put much thought into it.  I'm no scientist, but I think it might have as much to do with the smoking environment as it does the storage condition.  I've always just knocked the ash off and continued smoking, relighting if necessary.


Title: RE: Cigar burn question
Post by: MurphMan7700 on 04/16/2021 01:53 PM
That is what I have done Aldo. Sometimes having to cut off the end and relight also.
Title: Re: Cigar burn question
Post by: ninfiction on 04/16/2021 02:13 PM
It could be due to a plug (tobacco is rolled too tight), does the draw seem to be tight before you get to that point?

Similar to David I just knock it off and carry on. Being handmade there are times where you'll find inconsistent construction, unless I smoke multiple of the same cigar and always encounter issues I don't worry too much about it.

If I feel a cigar is plugged I use a Perfect Draw tool to open it up.
Title: RE: Cigar burn question
Post by: gitfiddl on 04/16/2021 04:14 PM
I don't recall any real problems until the ash sort of "crystalized"
Title: Re: Cigar burn question
Post by: MrMoke on 04/27/2021 06:15 PM
I am with @gitfiddl in that it could be environment related.  Have you considered it may be a result of high relative humidity?
Title: Re: Cigar burn question
Post by: Adwinistrator on 04/27/2021 10:20 PM
I have run into this exact same issue, and it seemed to resolve itself over time, but I had a string of these for a few months.  My best guess is that there was a situation that caused the cigars to dry out slightly (not to the point of damage), and then they are getting rehumidified from the outside in.  This allows the inside of the cigar to burn faster than the outside, where the ember can enter into the cigar beyond the burn-line, and create a hot and hard charcoal-ish spot.
Title: Re: Cigar burn question
Post by: MurphMan7700 on 04/29/2021 04:59 PM
That could be it, best explanation I have gotten. Thanks for the thoughts.
Title: Re: Cigar burn question
Post by: MurphMan7700 on 04/29/2021 05:02 PM
I thought so at first but I changed out the batteries for my hygrometers, 7 of them, one for each shelf. Still read the correct temp at 65 and RH 65 plus or minutes 1. I have Boveda and Heartfelt beads for 65 RH.
Title: RE: Cigar burn question
Post by: gitfiddl on 04/29/2021 05:47 PM
As an aside. it's that firm "charcoal-ness" of cigar ash that makes it so effective in "mudding" the bottoms of pipes to prevent burn-out, be the pipes cobs or otherwise.

Title: Re: Cigar burn question
Post by: Adwinistrator on 04/30/2021 08:29 AM
QuoteMurphMan7700 - 4/29/2021  6:02 PM

I thought so at first but I changed out the batteries for my hygrometers, 7 of them, one for each shelf. Still read the correct temp at 65 and RH 65 plus or minutes 1. I have Boveda and Heartfelt beads for 65 RH.

Just to add more context...

RH does not equal "moistness of cigar"

Relative humidity = moisture relative to temperature.

Temperature determines the maximum capacity for moisture in air.

65% RH @ 75 F is more moist than 65% RH @ 65 F.

This situation for, me and you, could have been caused by temperature swings.