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Title: blind review trade...
Post by: emind56 on 03/06/2008 06:10 PM
I was thinking it would be cool to do some blind review trades.  The idea is to get 5 or so members together.  Each week one of the members would send out 4 smokes to the other 4 members in the group.  The smokes would be unbanded so no one would know what they were getting.  Each would then smoke the cigar and write a review of what they thought of the cigar.  Would could have a special thread for the reviews.  After all had reviewed that weeks cigar the member who sent them out would reveal what they had been.  Then the next week the next member in line could do the same.  I think it would be be cool to see what we would think of different cigars if we ad no idea who made them or where they were from.

So whatcha think, anyone have any interest in doing something like this
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: NewGuy on 03/06/2008 07:34 PM
emind

Sounds like a really fun adventure. If the smokes were the same our database of reviews would really benefit from multiple reviews of the same stick.

Rack
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: emind56 on 03/06/2008 08:52 PM
Thats the idea to send out the same smokes to all participants.  The db will benefit, and also it is cool to see what people think when all marketing and predjudice is removed.  In the past when I've done similar ones I was always amazed by what I really enjoyed, and how I tasted old favorites like they were brand new.

So that makes two of us in who else?
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: NewGuy on 03/06/2008 08:55 PM
I saw an article in Aficionado with wild results when the same thing was done. This really could be fun.

Rack
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: Bob Cordell on 03/06/2008 08:56 PM
Sounds fun to me!
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: kgoings on 03/06/2008 08:59 PM
Sounds fun! I could come up with four new smokes a month.

So do you get a group, set a price range for each smoke. And the each month randomly select partners.

A big group, never know who your gonna exchange with, and always get some interesting cigars.
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: emind56 on 03/06/2008 11:03 PM
I'm open to any ideas on how to admisnistrate such a thing.  I thought a group of four or five, just to keep it magageable in terms of cost for shipping and cigars.   But no reason their couldn't be 3 or 4 groups.
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: emind56 on 03/07/2008 08:16 AM
Is that four participants now?
1. newguy
2. Bob Cordell
3. kgoings
4. Me

Who else is interested?
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: Bob Cordell on 03/07/2008 08:26 AM
How do we keep up with which reviews went with which cigars? Maybe instead of a band we could put a number with each cigar. Lets say I review smoke number one, the sender would know that it was a El Ray del Mundo or a Partagas or whatever.

Would that work?
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: kgoings on 03/07/2008 10:09 AM
QuoteBob Cordell - 3/7/2008  8:26 AM

How do we keep up with which reviews went with which cigars? Maybe instead of a band we could put a number with each cigar. Lets say I review smoke number one, the sender would know that it was a El Ray del Mundo or a Partagas or whatever.

Would that work?
So, it would be a weekly review. And the Review Organizer would be responsible for the organization.

Here is what I suggest.

We get a forum for blind Reviews. And you can have groups of people who do it for a month and then switch up to different groups if there are more people who are interested in doing it. We could do the first one as an example, and I could write a "Process Outline"

First - The Organizer starts a thread initiating the Blind Review.
- The organizer would be responsible for tracking which cigar got sent to which recipient.

Second - The participants would smoke their cigars
- Light, smoke, enjoy.

Third - The blind review.
- The participants would then, in the thread about that weeks review. Write up a review based on their experience.

Fourth - The revelation
- After all of the participants had posted their blind review, the organizer would reveal in the thread what they had smoked.

Fifth - The DB update
- The PARTCIPANTS would update the Cigar DB with their review; maybe we could modify the Cigar DB somehow to indicate that the review was part of a Blind Review.

Sixth ON TO THE NEXT BLIND REVIEW!!!
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: NewGuy on 03/07/2008 02:38 PM
Sounds good! Since some band width on the site is to be used let's get Pauls nod before we begin.

Rack
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: kgoings on 03/07/2008 03:12 PM
I will IM him
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: SenorPablo on 03/07/2008 03:14 PM
QuoteNewGuy - 3/7/2008  3:38 PM

Sounds good! Since some band width on the site is to be used let's get Pauls nod before we begin.

Rack

Like you guys need my permission!  Go for it!  Sounds like a great time.  If I had a little more time and a little less travel I might have joined.

-Paul
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: emind56 on 03/07/2008 04:04 PM
QuoteBob Cordell - 3/7/2008  7:26 AM

How do we keep up with which reviews went with which cigars? Maybe instead of a band we could put a number with each cigar. Lets say I review smoke number one, the sender would know that it was a El Ray del Mundo or a Partagas or whatever.

Would that work?

Each participant sends 4 of the same cigar, one each to the other 4 guys.  Then the next week the next guy sends 4 of the same cigar one each to the other 4 guys, etc...
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: NewGuy on 03/07/2008 05:05 PM
Sounds like fivers at CI BId are going to be topping some shopping lists!

Rack
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: emind56 on 03/07/2008 05:17 PM
Do we have 5 participants yet?  Are we going to do it on a new threaad or a new forum?  So many questions.......
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: kgoings on 03/07/2008 06:44 PM
I would say start a thread for it, use cigar bomb addresses for it so we do not have to post them in the public. And if it catches on a new forum can be created. In the future maybe we can modify the cigar pass system to track it and get addresses.
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: kgoings on 03/07/2008 06:44 PM
Oh and it looks like we only have 4
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: emind56 on 03/07/2008 07:00 PM
Should we wait for one more, or go ahead with 4?
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: kgoings on 03/07/2008 07:06 PM
You could post a thread with the 4 that are currently in and say you need one more? Or could invite someone?
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: kgoings on 03/08/2008 12:22 AM
Anyone else wanna join we need a fifth for our blind review/trade.
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: kgoings on 03/08/2008 12:23 AM
ljlemer???
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: ljlemer on 03/08/2008 05:29 AM
Quotekgoings - 3/8/2008  1:23 AM

ljlemer???

Sure! But we need to somehow label them so they don't get mixed up, unless they are all different sizes and colors.
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: kgoings on 03/08/2008 06:59 AM
emind was your idea to send out 16 smokes? 4 to each member of the review? Or send out 1 smoke to 4 different members?
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: kgoings on 03/08/2008 07:02 AM
Quoteemind56 - 3/6/2008  6:10 PM

I was thinking it would be cool to do some blind review trades.  The idea is to get 5 or so members together.  Each week one of the members would send out 4 smokes to the other 4 members in the group.  The smokes would be unbanded so no one would know what they were getting. Each would then smoke the cigar and write a review of what they thought of the cigar.  

It looks like he was talking about sending out 4 cigars, 1 to each participant. That would be easy to track. I.e. I sent member 1 the cohiba, member 2 to partagas, member 3 the Rocky, and member 4 the Gurkha.

And for those of us who dont smoke a ton of cigars a week, we wouldnt have to smoke 4 cigars.
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: NewGuy on 03/08/2008 07:49 AM
Somehow I thot the same smoke would be sent to each member for comparitive reviews. I dunno?

Rack
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: emind56 on 03/08/2008 09:44 AM
QuoteNewGuy - 3/8/2008  6:49 AM

Somehow I thot the same smoke would be sent to each member for comparitive reviews. I dunno?

Rack

This was my thinking as well.  The idea is just that each week one of the participants sends out 1 cigar each (of the same kind) to each of the other participants, then we all do comparitive blind reviews.  Post our reviews in a common thread.  Then the member who sent them out reveals what the smoke was, we all laugh about it etc.  Then by then its time for the next cigar......I hope thats clear.  If someone has a better idea as to how to make this easy and painless, I'm open to that to.

In thinking about it.  All participants could send the appropriate amount of cigars  to one central location up front.  Then this member could redistribute the cigars labled 1-4 or whatever to each participant, and then we could just review them one a week for however many weeks......THis might actually be simpler.  Since it was my idea I'd be happy to facilitate it, but do understand that I'm new around here, so if its a trust thing. I'm happy to send my gars off to someone else.  

Ideas?
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: kgoings on 03/08/2008 04:25 PM
I think it would be easier to do it the way you originally said, this week person A does it then person B then C and so on. Similar to the cigar pass. If you want to start a new thread to kick this first one off that would be fine. No need to ship the cigars twice...once to you and then again for you to ship them out...
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: Bob Cordell on 03/08/2008 04:36 PM
I thought that was the deal also, we all review the same cigars, not knowing which one is which and see what the consensus is. We have to number or letter the cigars so the sender will know which review goes with which stick, right?


I'm confused now...but like the Beatles song goes..."we can work it out"
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: kgoings on 03/08/2008 04:46 PM
emind run the first one how you want, when it is finished we will discuss what worked what didnt and how to make it better!
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: Bob Cordell on 03/08/2008 04:49 PM
Maybe my idea wont work either, if we all know what everybody else is sending...


http://www.cigargeeks.com/index.php?action=humidors;area=public;member=Bob%20Cordell
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: NewGuy on 03/08/2008 05:24 PM
Quotekgoings - 3/8/2008  5:46 PM

emind run the first one how you want, when it is finished we will discuss what worked what didnt and how to make it better!


That may be the thing to emind - get ithis thing off the ground and adjust in flight!

Rack
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: emind56 on 03/08/2008 08:25 PM
Ok new thread coming soon.....
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: kgoings on 03/09/2008 11:17 AM
When you starting the new thread?
Title: RE: blind review trade...
Post by: emind56 on 03/09/2008 12:59 PM
Today I promise....have no fear.