I have tried in the past to order from them. Three orders, three boxes of dried out prune like cigars. Outtler leaf peeling off, that bad. Complained abou it, and they sent me a 5 pack of undesirables for my trouble. Once I can forgive, three times, and they are NOW OUT. My primary now is HotAsh, followed by Cigars International. Have never been disappointed with the cigars nor the delivery. Just a point of interest.