The Nicaraguan Pass

Joelala · 07/11/2014 09:33 PM

Quotebmac7754 - 7/11/2014 11:07 PM

Joe, I'd like to play if you will have me

Of course.

bmac7754 · 07/11/2014 09:35 PM

QuoteJoelala - 7/12/2014 12:33 AM
Quotebmac7754 - 7/11/2014 11:07 PM Joe, I'd like to play if you will have me
Of course.

Cool beans. I think I hit the button.

Camshaft83 · 07/11/2014 09:40 PM

Thanks for letting me get in on this Joe. Looking forward to another pass.

Joelala · 07/11/2014 09:42 PM

Accepted both of you. Will see if we can get 12-13 at the most of solid geeks.

Joelala · 07/12/2014 08:36 AM

Getting the pass order ready, anyone need any special requests?

bmac7754 · 07/12/2014 09:20 AM

Looking good Joe. I got your PM, and all set with that.

cibolodave · 07/12/2014 01:31 PM

sounds like an awesome pass. just clicked join

Joelala · 07/13/2014 08:28 AM

Just accepted the last few geeks. Closing it up and will do my best to get this out sometime next week so we can get moving.

Cfickter · 07/13/2014 10:31 AM

Epic list of Geeks in this pass, thanks for getting this organized. Great starting list, some great NIC smokes out there to be added. Looking forward to getting this pass

Joelala · 07/13/2014 10:33 AM

Again please take a look at the pass order and warn me of any conflicts please.

StogieDad · 07/13/2014 06:00 PM

Joe, how fast are you planning on launching? I leave our of town next Friday, the 25th for a week. Probably fine, just wanted to let you know.

Joelala · 07/13/2014 07:23 PM

QuoteStogieDad - 7/13/2014 8:00 PM

Joe, how fast are you planning on launching? I leave our of town next Friday, the 25th for a week. Probably fine, just wanted to let you know.

Hopefully this week. I'll make sure you are good.

jharrisx5 · 07/13/2014 09:35 PM

Thanks for having me...I'm fine with the order (as far as my position anyway)

bmac7754 · 07/14/2014 05:25 AM

I'm good as well Joe.

Mojo66 · 07/14/2014 07:14 AM

All is good for me, but that kinda goes without saying

Joelala · 07/14/2014 07:18 AM

Just moved a few things around to accommodate requests.

This pass now has 17 members, all of which are great geeks. I am locking it down here, looking forward to seeing how this turns out.

StogieDad · 07/14/2014 07:20 AM

This pass is gonna be awesome!

Longhorn · 07/14/2014 07:28 AM

Should be good for me - thanks for coordinating!

nwb · 07/14/2014 02:16 PM

Maybe I'm being a little bit of an a$$, but I want to make sure I understand what happened here.

A member starts a pass. People jump all over him for starting a pass even though he has never posted and ask him to introduce himself. People seem to like the idea and there is a bunch of interest. The pass creator is off the site for 24-36 hours, then he comes back to introduce himself. In the meantime, a new pass is created with the same exact theme. The original pass creator, who came up with the idea, requests to join and he isn't allowed because he is a newbie.

I'm not one to create drama, but that doesn't seem quite right. In a PM, he offered to change his pass to be Dominican themed (and he may still do that) since the Nicaraguan idea was now taken. However, if it were me, it would have turned me off this site, never to return.

And just so there are no hard feelings toward him, he hasn't complained one bit and did not ask me to post this. He's actually been very patient, IMHO.

Joelala · 07/14/2014 02:31 PM

Quotenwb - 7/14/2014 4:16 PM

Maybe I'm being a little bit of an a$$, but I want to make sure I understand what happened here.

A member starts a pass. People jump all over him for starting a pass even though he has never posted and ask him to introduce himself. People seem to like the idea and there is a bunch of interest. The pass creator is off the site for 24-36 hours, then he comes back to introduce himself. In the meantime, a new pass is created with the same exact theme. The original pass creator, who came up with the idea, requests to join and he isn't allowed because he is a newbie.

I'm not one to create drama, but that doesn't seem quite right. In a PM, he offered to change his pass to be Dominican themed (and he may still do that) since the Nicaraguan idea was now taken. However, if it were me, it would have turned me off this site, never to return.

And just so there are no hard feelings toward him, he hasn't complained one bit and did not ask me to post this. He's actually been very patient, IMHO.

If someone can vouch for this new member I would be more than happy to let him join the pass. When I was new, I had to have 100 plus points to join a pass like this or have someone vouch for me(I had no one to vouch for me), I just think it is part of getting to know everyone on the site and getting to know how passes work on here. It is just like selling sticks to a new guy, you will most likely wait for him to pay you before sending him your end of the deal.

Yes he did requets to join but he did not let me know if he read the posts about how passes work here. If he did, I would have asked if anyone could vouch for him.

I do not take this personal, and I really hope he does not as well. Depending on where he is in the pass, we may have anywhere from 12 sticks to who knows how many being passed around. And knowing this group of geeks it will probably be some nice sticks.

Having said that, SparkMark please speak up, don't be shy we are all pretty laid back here. If you want to join and are willing to do your portion of the pass virtually (which means you tell me you puts and takes and we mail them to each other), I am happy to have you. If not, is there someone on the site who can vouch for you since we do not really know you.

Joelala · 07/14/2014 02:36 PM

And please, if I am being an A$$, ALWAYS CALL ME ON IT. Sometimes it takes someone telling you to realize it.

kxthor911 · 07/14/2014 02:52 PM

I know I'm not in the pass, but SparkMark it seems did have a good idea. Joe did you send him a PM asking him to appear virtually in the pass?

nwb · 07/14/2014 02:56 PM

As the moderator, he had to front the cigars for the pass, so no vouching was required. He took on all the risk, as the pass moderator usually does. As a pass participant, he is now the risk and has to have someone vouch for him or do his portion virtually. And I don't blame any pass moderator for having minimum requirements (like 100 points or one previous pass completed). In all honesty, I don't blame you for not letting him in the pass. These are two distinct situations with different dynamics.

It is water under the bridge, now. The moral of the story, and the reason I brought it up, is this has traditionally been a very open, inviting forum to newbies. The way that this situation unfolded was not welcoming, IMHO. Just something to watch, but it seems there was no harm done here.

Joelala · 07/14/2014 03:21 PM

Quotekxthor911 - 7/14/2014 4:52 PM

I know I'm not in the pass, but SparkMark it seems did have a good idea. Joe did you send him a PM asking him to appear virtually in the pass?

I did not. More than happy to do so.

Joelala · 07/14/2014 03:22 PM

Quotenwb - 7/14/2014 4:56 PM

As the moderator, he had to front the cigars for the pass, so no vouching was required. He took on all the risk, as the pass moderator usually does. As a pass participant, he is now the risk and has to have someone vouch for him or do his portion virtually. And I don't blame any pass moderator for having minimum requirements (like 100 points or one previous pass completed). In all honesty, I don't blame you for not letting him in the pass. These are two distinct situations with different dynamics.

It is water under the bridge, now. The moral of the story, and the reason I brought it up, is this has traditionally been a very open, inviting forum to newbies. The way that this situation unfolded was not welcoming, IMHO. Just something to watch, but it seems there was no harm done here.

In your previous post I thought you were referring to me not letting him in this pass. Sorry for the misunderstanding.