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Wifi Monitoring Sensors

Started by ThinBlueLine, 10/24/2015 07:05 AM

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STL_Cohiba

Man I really like this setup. I will definitely look into this
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http://cigargeeks.com/humidor/default.asp?
action=humidor&member=STL%5FCohiba

Ted

OK, looking for recommendation/ideas from others using the tags. Got mine using the promo code above (don't bother emailing about promo codes, I got a one word reply of "no").

First off, Android interface help. I was really hoping for a single screen that would allow me to see temp and RH of all tags like the image in the OP (iOS seems to have better view). Instead I get this...



Which is really NOT what I wanted. At best I have to open each tag and then I can't see the status of all devices at once...



So using the sharing feature, I pasted the embed code into a single HTML file that I load on my phone. Refreshing that gives me...



Not ideal, since I actually have to zoom in to get that view and styles aren't working to automatically zoom. I also can't add to the desktop, so have to keep a bookmark in Chrome (Internet Browser app won't open iframes). At this point, I'm really not happy with available interface options in the app. Any other workarounds or maybe hidden screens I haven't found yet?

Also the web interface works great in Chrome, sucks in Firefox. Login/out function is horribly buggy under Firefox, and it would not accept the serial number when I initially tried to register. Could only register via the phone app. At this point I'd have to grade the device about a C- on usability, basically because monitoring ease of use is really bad (IMO). If any other users have tips 'n tricks I would LOVE to try them. At this point I'm kind of regretting the purchase.

Ted

OK, setting help?!

The batteries on my tags dropped 3% over approximately a 12 hour period. This means I'll need to replace the batteries twice per month. Is anyone else having this problem? I've set the following to try and help...

Receiver Mode: Low Power
Humidity Response Time: Slow
Check Temperature: Every 5 minutes
All Notifications: Disabled
All Motion: Disarmed

Any other settings I am missing?!?! 2 of my sensors are now at 96% battery life, and they were powered on for the first time at 100% about 15 hours ago.

ThinBlueLine

Mine are at 94% since I installed them...just so you know batteries often drop several points after first couple hours and then should maintain from their on...I bet they hold
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ThinBlueLine

I only use my iOS on my phone and it's awesome...so toss your junk phone and get an Apple
I enjoy romantic walks to my humidors...

Ted

Last question for the moment! Did anyone find they had to calibrate their tags? I'm seeing a 2ยบ differential between tags, and they are all in the same small Boveda calibration bag. Reset them a few minutes ago with something to hold the plastic away from the sensor holes in case that was causing the 3-4% differential I was seeing in RH. Will let sit for another 24 hours and then calibrate, but was just wondering what differential swing other might be seeing from the factory.

Maybe my expectations are too high, but I was kind of assuming the more money you spent, the more likely it was for a device to be accurately calibrated at the factory. My new Cigar Oasis Magna was reporting 2% low on RH, and these seem to be off a bit as well. Glad I always test, and will never buy a product I can't calibrate.

Ted

QuoteThinBlueLine - 1/15/2016  12:06 PM  Mine are at 94% since I installed them...just so you know batteries often drop several points after first couple hours and then should maintain from their on...I bet they hold

 

Good to know! Thank you!


Ted

QuoteThinBlueLine - 1/15/2016  12:07 PM  I only use my iOS on my phone and it's awesome...so toss your junk phone and get an Apple

Not good to know! No thank you!

 

:biggrin:  


ThinBlueLine

I didn't calibrate mine...they matched up to the Xikar units I already had calibrated in my humidor.  How do you calibrate these?
I enjoy romantic walks to my humidors...

Ted

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QuoteThinBlueLine - 1/15/2016  12:27 PM  I didn't calibrate mine...they matched up to the Xikar units I already had calibrated in my humidor.  How do you calibrate these?

Under the advanced section for humidity sensor options. Haven't set yet, but it looks like two of mine are looking about 3% low. Will give them 24 hours in the bag before calibrating. I do like the graphs a lot. Will help determine when the tags have reached a plateau.

EDIT:

Graph works in Chrome, but I can't get it to show up in Firefox. :(

Cool Graph


ThinBlueLine

Hmmmm...I don't see that
I enjoy romantic walks to my humidors...

Ted

Hmmm. I wonder what is happening every 30 minutes?


ThinBlueLine

I see it now I have never used the web based in chrome...thanks Ted
I enjoy romantic walks to my humidors...

ThinBlueLine

I enjoy romantic walks to my humidors...

Ted

QuoteThinBlueLine - 1/15/2016  12:47 PM  Hmmmm...I don't see that

I can't get the graph to open in Firefox, but if I copy the link to Chrome it works perfectly.


Ted

QuoteThinBlueLine - 1/15/2016  12:49 PM  You got fans in there?

Not yet...

This is where they will be going. Still working on getting it ready. Currently going with 2 sets of AC Infinity fans. May add another pair after I get everything sealed up tight. Seasoning right now. Just the Magna and a pair of humicare hygros (calibrated for a few days before putting in). Still have to replace the outlet it came with and add some weatherstripping. Holds better than before reversing the door, but still loose at the bottom and around the outlet.


 


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Ted

QuoteCamshaft83 - 1/15/2016  2:00 PM  That is a nice tower.  :bigthumbs:

Thanks. Would have preferred a Staebell, but at almost 1/3 the cost I'm willing to deal with the imperfections. Just thrilled to be getting out of the coolidors!


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That is a gorgeous humidor.
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:bigthumbs: Very Nice! Keep us posted on your progress
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Ted

Thanks guys. Figured I'd put up a review post after I'm done with it. Had a ton of questions about the unit that were only answered after getting it. Heck, I couldn't even find interior dimensions online for it.

Ted

OK, now that the enviro is normalizing, I'm starting to have a lot more fun with these tags. I'm constantly checking out the statistics on these, looking to see how stable the new humidor is. It looked very stable since the last time I opened the door last night until I noticed this pattern that appears to have started about 10AM. The lower sensor (humidifier location) is showing an increase in RH, while the middle (humidifier control location) and upper sensor are showing a decrease in RH.



Looking at the temp statistics, 10AM is about the same time I'm seeing a temperature increase in all 3 zones.



Interesting to see the increase in temperature cause the RH to drop in the middle and upper zones, while it increases in the lower zone as the humidifier kicks on! Will be interested to see how this looks over a 48-72 hour period. Although tough to go that long without opening the door! Have more fans coming tomorrow and a plug adapter to make room for my remote control unit. Can't wait to pull the surge protector out of the cabinet.

At this point, I am much happier with these!

Ted

Oh, I should mention that these might be a little overboard. I find myself trying to find causes for patterns like the ones above, which are only a 0.2% change in RH. This is something I would never have noticed before. Now I have a way to track improvements I make (whether it be fan speed, placement, number, weatherstripping around the door, silicone around the outlet, etc.) to an absurd level I hadn't dreamed of before!

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